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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:25 pm
by Captain Termite
Why would you hand-wave away Trump's personality issues as meaningless? His personality drives all his actions, which results in actual real things happening.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:25 pm
by Anders
BurtReynolds wrote:Assuming he lives that long.
The VP will have a higher chance than ever of becoming president next term.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:26 pm
by epilogue
I mean Jesus LV look the fuck around you.

Biden ain't my guy but what on Earth makes you think he could be worse or even the same level of disaster Trump has been?

Was Obama the same as Trump? Because at worst Biden is just a flaccid extension of those policies.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:32 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Captain Termite wrote:Why would you hand-wave away Trump's personality issues as meaningless? His personality drives all his actions, which results in actual real things happening.
I generally find his personality funny and refreshing for a politician so this is wasted on me. Biden’s personality is far more offensive.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:33 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:I mean Jesus LV look the fuck around you.

Biden ain't my guy but what on Earth makes you think he could be worse or even the same level of disaster Trump has been?

Was Obama the same as Trump? Because at worst Biden is just a flaccid extension of those policies.
You cited nothing in this post. “Look around you” is meaningless; I’m not gonna see the same things you do.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:35 pm
by Captain Termite
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Captain Termite wrote:Why would you hand-wave away Trump's personality issues as meaningless? His personality drives all his actions, which results in actual real things happening.
I generally find his personality funny and refreshing for a politician so this is wasted on me. Biden’s personality is far more offensive.
But why would you think it is meaningless? Or maybe I am misunderstanding what you meant.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:37 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Captain Termite wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Captain Termite wrote:Why would you hand-wave away Trump's personality issues as meaningless? His personality drives all his actions, which results in actual real things happening.
I generally find his personality funny and refreshing for a politician so this is wasted on me. Biden’s personality is far more offensive.
But why would you think it is meaningless? Or maybe I am misunderstanding what you meant.
Because I think issues of personality ARE pretty much meaningless when it comes to politics. I don’t care about civility or manners or decorum or any of that shit. All I care about is what Biden will do to improve life for the ruled class, which - as far as I can tell - is nothing.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:38 pm
by verb_to_trust
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I mean Jesus LV look the fuck around you.

Biden ain't my guy but what on Earth makes you think he could be worse or even the same level of disaster Trump has been?

Was Obama the same as Trump? Because at worst Biden is just a flaccid extension of those policies.
You cited nothing in this post. “Look around you” is meaningless; I’m not gonna see the same things you do.
Then you should just simply understand that the power and influence the presidency has by appointing the right people to head up cabinet and military positions absolutely matters. Most are currently filled by sycophants, unqualified boot lickers or "acting" officials. Not to mention RBG is going to die soon. Get a grip man.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:40 pm
by Captain Termite
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Captain Termite wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Captain Termite wrote:Why would you hand-wave away Trump's personality issues as meaningless? His personality drives all his actions, which results in actual real things happening.
I generally find his personality funny and refreshing for a politician so this is wasted on me. Biden’s personality is far more offensive.
But why would you think it is meaningless? Or maybe I am misunderstanding what you meant.
Because I think issues of personality ARE pretty much meaningless when it comes to politics. I don’t care about civility or manners or decorum or any of that shit. All I care about is what Biden will do to improve life for the ruled class, which - as far as I can tell - is nothing.
I wasn't talking about manners/decorum. As I said above, Trump's personality problems drive actual decisions, more than for other leaders. It affects who he puts in charge to run parts of the government, foreign and domestic policies, etc.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:41 pm
by LoathedVermin72
verb_to_trust wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I mean Jesus LV look the fuck around you.

Biden ain't my guy but what on Earth makes you think he could be worse or even the same level of disaster Trump has been?

Was Obama the same as Trump? Because at worst Biden is just a flaccid extension of those policies.
You cited nothing in this post. “Look around you” is meaningless; I’m not gonna see the same things you do.
Then you should just simply understand that the power and influence the presidency has by appoint the right people to head up cabinet and military positions absolutely matters. Most are currently filled by sycophants, unqualified boot lickers or "acting" officials. Not to mention RBG is going to die soon. Get a grip man.
Again, when Bloomberg and Dimon are already being floated, why on earth should I think Biden would do any better than Trump?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:42 pm
by verb_to_trust
Appointing a dipshit like Sondland as EU ambassador because he wrote a check for 1 million is the type of person that Trump is. Fuck that.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:43 pm
by LoathedVermin72
That doesn’t answer the question

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:43 pm
by Captain Termite
It seems likely that the worst plausible hypothetical Biden cabinet appointments are better than the actual Trump appointments.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:43 pm
by verb_to_trust
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I mean Jesus LV look the fuck around you.

Biden ain't my guy but what on Earth makes you think he could be worse or even the same level of disaster Trump has been?

Was Obama the same as Trump? Because at worst Biden is just a flaccid extension of those policies.
You cited nothing in this post. “Look around you” is meaningless; I’m not gonna see the same things you do.
Then you should just simply understand that the power and influence the presidency has by appoint the right people to head up cabinet and military positions absolutely matters. Most are currently filled by sycophants, unqualified boot lickers or "acting" officials. Not to mention RBG is going to die soon. Get a grip man.
Again, when Bloomberg and Dimon are already being floated, why on earth should I think Biden would do any better than Trump?
Is he floating some Brett Buttchug for SCOTUS when RBG dies? Because the conversation can really just end there.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:46 pm
by doug rr
why don't people realize that bloomy is a lifelong democrat other than the 12 years as nyc mayor because he couldn't run as a dem?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:46 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Captain Termite wrote:It seems likely that the worst plausible hypothetical Biden cabinet appointments are better than the actual Trump appointments.
I can’t imagine anybody worse than Jamie Dimon

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:46 pm
by verb_to_trust
doug rr wrote:why don't people realize that bloomy is a lifelong democrat other than the 12 years as nyc mayor because he couldn't run as a dem?
Because he's a piece of shit so that doesn't really matter?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:49 pm
by doug rr
oh, good to know

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:50 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I mean Jesus LV look the fuck around you.

Biden ain't my guy but what on Earth makes you think he could be worse or even the same level of disaster Trump has been?

Was Obama the same as Trump? Because at worst Biden is just a flaccid extension of those policies.
You cited nothing in this post. “Look around you” is meaningless; I’m not gonna see the same things you do.
And I'm not going to do your homework for you. I suppose you'll see what you want to see and no amount of evidence to the contrary will sway you. So it goes.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed March 11, 2020 7:50 pm
by doug rr
this made me laugh the other day...watched an interview with elizabeth warren and she was asked who would she would most like to have lunch with..she said Oprah...how many billions is she worth?