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Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 3:01 pm
by harmless
The artwork on the album itself (iconic, archetypal, broadbrush) gave us a hint of how they'd continue that in this video, I think. I'm impressed with the general art direction of this one so far; it suits the musical thrust of MYM and seems much more thematically consistent and less random or whimsical than the last two albums. I hope they continue it over the album. Obviously I need to like the songs as well, but if so, I'm sold.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 3:03 pm
by EJ
harmless wrote:The artwork on the album itself (iconic, archetypal, broadbrush) gave us a hint of how they'd continue that in this video, I think. I'm impressed with the general art direction of this one so far; it suits the musical thrust of MYM and seems much more thematically consistent and less random or whimsical than the last two albums. I hope they continue it over the album. Obviously I need to like the songs as well, but if so, I'm sold.
The sponge song will be the big question mark on the thematical glue of this album.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 3:07 pm
by Lounge Lizard
Why is MYM so quiet compared to my other mp3s? I hope it's not like that on the album.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 3:13 pm
by harmless
Lounge Lizard wrote:Why is MYM so quiet compared to my other mp3s? I hope it's not like that on the album.
Wow, I asked this and I was laughed off the stage. Same here. It also seems quiet compared to the "bookends" 50's footage on either side of the video. I'm hoping it'll have more balls on the album, or at least that, if it's quiet, the other tracks are as well.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 3:23 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:Why is MYM so quiet compared to my other mp3s? I hope it's not like that on the album.
Wow, I asked this and I was laughed off the stage. Same here. It also seems quiet compared to the "bookends" 50's footage on either side of the video. I'm hoping it'll have more balls on the album, or at least that, if it's quiet, the other tracks are as well.
I've been listening to it separately from other stuff. It only just struck me now how quiet it is compaired to my other stuff on shuffle
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 3:32 pm
by iceagecoming
The soundcloud version is twice as loud as the official video audio.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 3:38 pm
by Lounge Lizard
iceagecoming wrote:The soundcloud version is twice as loud as the official video audio.
Oh.
And how does one download a clip from soundcloud?
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 3:42 pm
by harmless
Lounge Lizard wrote:iceagecoming wrote:The soundcloud version is twice as loud as the official video audio.
Oh.
And how does one download a clip from soundcloud?
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 3:43 pm
by harmless
I would feel better about it if I thought this quietness was a reaction to the 'Loudness Wars', but it doesn't sound like it.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 3:59 pm
by Mine
There is an option do download this in flac or wav. It's lossy encoding with different codecs that causes the differences. There's a reason it's called lossy. Also different codecs will colour the sound in different ways. Some even involve psychoacoustic effects making the difference even larger.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 4:01 pm
by harmless
You think these things will be fixed on the album?
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 4:15 pm
by Mine
I think it will sound the same as the flac.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 4:18 pm
by harmless
Ah well, hopefully it'll be consistent with the album anyway.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 4:38 pm
by Norah
harmless wrote:stip wrote:i admit I got curious and wondered what I was missing, so I read up on the fundraiser Eddie played to make money for Obama. From every report I saw Eddie wasn't really praising Obama. he was condemning Romney, in particular for the 47% comment.
A bit like me. My default setting is hatred of the Tories but it doesn't mean adherence to Labour either.
Raising money for one side is an overt act of support though.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 4:44 pm
by harmless
cutuphalfdead wrote:harmless wrote:stip wrote:i admit I got curious and wondered what I was missing, so I read up on the fundraiser Eddie played to make money for Obama. From every report I saw Eddie wasn't really praising Obama. he was condemning Romney, in particular for the 47% comment.
A bit like me. My default setting is hatred of the Tories but it doesn't mean adherence to Labour either.
Raising money for one side is an overt act of support though.
This is true. But I don't assume that prior total support of Obama (which, let's be honest, was easy to have in the run-up to his presidency) condemns Ed in any way now. Neither do I need him to tell me overtly if he's not entirely happy with Obama now (even if I hope he isn't). Heck, from a UK standpoint I'm all for Obamacare, so I don't need Ed to viciously attack Obama like he did Bush... who was just an out-and-out ignoramus and supremely dangerous for being that. But I'll admit it would be nice if some acknowledgement was given, somewhere, that everything isn't so simple now. Whatever happens, I think it's pretty baseless to cry "Hypocrite!" until we find out more.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 4:46 pm
by harmless
But hey, I do believe there is 'better', 'bad' and 'worse' in politics. I think the "They're all as bad as each other" line is just an excuse for apathy.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 5:04 pm
by stip
cutuphalfdead wrote:harmless wrote:stip wrote:i admit I got curious and wondered what I was missing, so I read up on the fundraiser Eddie played to make money for Obama. From every report I saw Eddie wasn't really praising Obama. he was condemning Romney, in particular for the 47% comment.
A bit like me. My default setting is hatred of the Tories but it doesn't mean adherence to Labour either.
Raising money for one side is an overt act of support though.
oh sure, but given what illumineddie was complaining about there is a big difference between supporting someone because you love everything about them, and supporting someone overtly to stop something you hate. I suspect obama is somewhere in between
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 5:06 pm
by harmless
Stip, did you get my PM? I'm a little bit pissed off as I don't think it sent and I took ages on it.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 5:08 pm
by stip
I didn't
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Mon August 26, 2013 5:09 pm
by harmless
Gah. As I thought. If I can remember what the poll categories were I'll send it again.