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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 3:48 pm
by Coach
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Coach wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Coach wrote:This might be unpopular here, but if I was BoB for a day and was allowed to eliminate either Lightning Bolt or Future Days from the new record, I'd strike LB.
This almost makes me want to agree with you.
Oh man, I didn't even mean to do that. :D
That makes it even better
I love the verb "strike."

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 3:50 pm
by stonefury
So I am reading all these complaints about not being excited anymore because of no new news. Let's see how unexcited you are for the album when they release the tracklist. And then when more details come out shortly thereafter. These extreme reactions seem to be par the course for PJ fans. We are still months out. Have some patience.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 3:52 pm
by Coach
Maybe I should use this space now to let folks know that I am still excited.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 3:52 pm
by epilogue
Yeah, I'm still pretty excited. Mind Your Manners really changed my tune, team. I've been riding high since then.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 3:54 pm
by Coach
When you hear MYM on the radio, it really is a nice jarring break from the mundane stuff that's out there. I'm still at a solid 3/5 stars for MYM but I grade Pearl Jam against its best songs, and records. So, a 3 isn't all that bad in my book.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 3:56 pm
by epilogue
I tend to suffer from prolonged honeymoon syndrome. So we'll see how MYM sits with me in a year or two. But for now it's an easy 4 star song which could climb to a 5 eventually if I don't tire of it first. But it's been how long? And I'm not even a little sick of it yet. And I listen to it everyday.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 3:57 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Coach wrote:Maybe I should use this space now to let folks know that I am still excited.
Im with you

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 4:09 pm
by Coach
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Coach wrote:Maybe I should use this space now to let folks know that I am still excited.
Im with you
And I will remain very, very excited after the record release on Oct. 15 when I will see the band play that night at Worcester I.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 4:13 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Coach wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Coach wrote:Maybe I should use this space now to let folks know that I am still excited.
Im with you
And I will remain very, very excited after the record release on Oct. 15 when I will see the band play that night at Worcester I.
Im still interested to see if the shows before the album release get only MYM, LB and FD or if they will start playing all the songs they plan on playing for the whole tour right from the beginning

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 4:15 pm
by harmless
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Coach wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Coach wrote:Maybe I should use this space now to let folks know that I am still excited.
Im with you
And I will remain very, very excited after the record release on Oct. 15 when I will see the band play that night at Worcester I.
Im still interested to see if the shows before the album release get only MYM, LB and FD or if they will start playing all the songs they plan on playing for the whole tour right from the beginning
How many shows before the album comes out?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 4:19 pm
by harmless
Thejambi wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:It's funny how people seem to think that "Future Days" will magically become a better song once a better recording is available.
I think it will be more enjoyable .
I don't think 'magic' has much to do with it, Wendy Carlos's Twin; more, you know, studio recording dynamics, instrumental quality and arrangement, that kind of thing. I'm not sure why people are struggling with that concept.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 4:22 pm
by Jorge
McParadigm wrote:Wow.

They sure suck at David Tennant and Bill Murray, though.
Yes, but Image

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 4:26 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:It's funny how people seem to think that "Future Days" will magically become a better song once a better recording is available.
I think it will be more enjoyable .
I don't think 'magic' has much to do with it, Wendy Carlos's Twin; more, you know, studio recording dynamics, instrumental quality and arrangement, that kind of thing. I'm not sure why people are struggling with that concept.
It's a horrible song, and nothing is gonna change that. Stop fooling yourselves.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 4:28 pm
by harmless
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:It's funny how people seem to think that "Future Days" will magically become a better song once a better recording is available.
I think it will be more enjoyable .
I don't think 'magic' has much to do with it, Wendy Carlos's Twin; more, you know, studio recording dynamics, instrumental quality and arrangement, that kind of thing. I'm not sure why people are struggling with that concept.
It's a horrible song, and nothing is gonna change that. Stop fooling yourselves.
I'd like you to list your favourite PJ songs, so that I can then tell you your favourite songs suck and you're delusional.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 4:34 pm
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:It's funny how people seem to think that "Future Days" will magically become a better song once a better recording is available.
I think it will be more enjoyable .
I don't think 'magic' has much to do with it, Wendy Carlos's Twin; more, you know, studio recording dynamics, instrumental quality and arrangement, that kind of thing. I'm not sure why people are struggling with that concept.
Me neither. I don't think it was once mentioned that the differences would be so great that it would be a totally different song. The song is "the song" yes. The quality of the studio recording and production can play a big part on how well a song is received. Maybe it an overall warmth or mood set by post production or guitar tones/effects. Maybe it's a little studio magic on Ed's vocals with layering or slight key correction. The tempo of the song. How thick or thin the drums and bass are. The overall mix of everything plays a part.
All these things can effect how a song is enjoyed both positively and negatively.
I personally haven't cared for Pearl Jams live tone or eds live vocals that much the past 6 years or so. I think they still sound good but I don't think they transcend what they can do as a studio band.

Sometimes you can't fully enjoy a painting from a picture. Usually the color is a bit off and Sometimes You need to see the brushstroke an the markmaking. I see a studio recording more like having the actual painting.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 4:35 pm
by harmless
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:It's funny how people seem to think that "Future Days" will magically become a better song once a better recording is available.
I think it will be more enjoyable .
I don't think 'magic' has much to do with it, Wendy Carlos's Twin; more, you know, studio recording dynamics, instrumental quality and arrangement, that kind of thing. I'm not sure why people are struggling with that concept.
Me neither. I don't think it was once mentioned that the differences would be so great that it would be a totally different song. The song is "the song" yes. The quality of the studio recording and production can play a big part on how well a song is received. Maybe it an overall warmth or mood set by post production or guitar tones/effects. Maybe it's a little studio magic on Ed's vocals with layering or slight key correction. The tempo of the song. How thick or thin the drums and bass are. The overall mix of everything plays a part.
All these things can effect how a song is enjoyed both positively and negatively.
I personally haven't cared for Pearl Jams live tone or eds live vocals that much the past 6 years or so. I think they still sound good but I don't think they transcend what they can do as a studio band.

Sometimes you can't fully enjoy a painting from a picture. Usually the color is a bit off and Sometimes You need to see the brushstroke an the markmaking. I see a studio recording more like having the actual painting.
:nice:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 5:07 pm
by melonhead4
Im thinking this thing will leak in about a month...I remember BS leaked well before its release, so much so i wasnt really excited when he album came out in stores...At list point i just want a tracklist and or review..>Somebody has def heard this thing outside the PJ team....

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 5:09 pm
by harmless
Some more review/article type things would be nice, even if we don't get to hear the thing itself. I'm not looking forward to the prospect of having nothing happening at all for the next 2 months.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 5:30 pm
by BurtReynolds
I dont think I can get excited for anything thats more than 2 months out. Thats just not how I roll.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri August 09, 2013 5:32 pm
by harmless
It's too late for me.