Red Mosquito

EJ wrote:

lecherouslittlestump wrote:If Backspacer was their Sgt Peppers, then Lightning Bolt is their Let It Be

The non inclusion of Better Man (live) keeps it from being their Abbey Road.

Has anyone tried putting the CD in their stereo and rewinding track one? Maybe Better Man (Live) is one of those hidden tracks that is stashed before the first song.

Mostly it's just funny as shit.

Not relevant to the music, or some terrible betrayal of character. It's more like Ed's boot rage or Stone's stylistic similarities to DJ Lance from Yo Gabba Gabba.

Just great fodder for jokes.

blueviper wrote:

so2344 wrote:Long time member had to reactivate acct to ask you guys 1 question: why is LB so expensive? It is $14.88 at amazon and $15.99 (!) at best buy!

Anyone have insight into this?

Thanks and glad to be back on here for this release!

I've been stashing a $10 best buy reward zone certificate just for this occasion....

It is all part of their anti corporate strategy to make you buy it through the 10c

Lament wrote:

harmless wrote:

Lament wrote:They've managed to keep CD prices high, and done so on their own terms. You have to respect that.

Yup. I empathise with the arguments about this band selling out. It's always fun to join in. But I didn't really get into them for their unrivalled ethics and indie cred. That was a road they travelled for a while and I enjoyed it, but it wasn't what this band was early on, and I never expected it to be what the band would always be.

What's funny is that the band are the ones responsible for getting the fanbase to believe that it was such an integral part of who they are/were. It ended up being so important to a lot of the fans because Pearl Jam was pretty insistent about how important it was to them.

Yeah, I guess so. I was always sceptical of that, simply because of how bloody large their fanbase was. It was world-wide, not "cult". Also, for their entire career they've been entertaining the idea of classic rock / HoF tradition whilst talking about ethics. There was always this paradoxical, contradictory tug-of-war going on between the quiet, ethical indie band and the rock gods who were friends with Springsteen, Uncle Neil, The Who and Bono. When a band becomes famous enough and achieves that kind of status, some of them are going to say "Yes please." I don't think they've done a 180 as much as just close the gap on their confusing bipolar approach (which, let's face it, has split fans down the middle on every record).

Lament wrote:

EJ wrote:

lecherouslittlestump wrote:If Backspacer was their Sgt Peppers, then Lightning Bolt is their Let It Be

The non inclusion of Better Man (live) keeps it from being their Abbey Road.

Has anyone tried putting the CD in their stereo and rewinding track one? Maybe Better Man (Live) is one of those hidden tracks that is stashed before the first song.

Mine just has some garbled nonsense that sounds like "BoB is twerking."

Can someone paste Brendan's head onto a gif of Miley Cyrus twerking? Thanks in advance.

McParadigm wrote:Mostly it's just funny as shit.

Not relevant to the music, or some terrible betrayal of character. It's more like Ed's boot rage or Stone's stylistic similarities to DJ Lance from Yo Gabba Gabba.

Just great fodder for jokes.

Ed was always incredibly well-meaning at the same time as fickle, reactive and impressionable.

I am still ten kinds of pissed we never got the Doug getaway/getaway epk splice

I might replace FD with Doug Getaway on my playlist. "Getaway (Reprise)"

harmless wrote:Ed was always incredibly well-meaning at the same time as fickle, reactive and impressionable.

He was pretty straight-up mean and aggressive towards some pretty easy targets fairly deep into Pearl Jam's career.

Lament wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed was always incredibly well-meaning at the same time as fickle, reactive and impressionable.

He was pretty straight-up mean and aggressive towards some pretty easy targets fairly deep into Pearl Jam's career.

That's true. But anger is well-meaning.

I wonder if there were nights that president bush was sad that Eddie didn't like him?

harmless wrote:

Lament wrote:

harmless wrote:

Lament wrote:They've managed to keep CD prices high, and done so on their own terms. You have to respect that.

Yup. I empathise with the arguments about this band selling out. It's always fun to join in. But I didn't really get into them for their unrivalled ethics and indie cred. That was a road they travelled for a while and I enjoyed it, but it wasn't what this band was early on, and I never expected it to be what the band would always be.

What's funny is that the band are the ones responsible for getting the fanbase to believe that it was such an integral part of who they are/were. It ended up being so important to a lot of the fans because Pearl Jam was pretty insistent about how important it was to them.

Yeah, I guess so. I was always sceptical of that, simply because of how bloody large their fanbase was. It was world-wide, not "cult". Also, for their entire career they've been entertaining the idea of classic rock / HoF tradition whilst talking about ethics. There was always this paradoxical, contradictory tug-of-war going on between the quiet, ethical indie band and the rock gods who were friends with Springsteen, Uncle Neil, The Who and Bono. When a band becomes famous enough and achieves that kind of status, some of them are going to say "Yes please." I don't think they've done a 180 as much as just close the gap on their confusing bipolar approach (which, let's face it, has split fans down the middle on every record).

To be fair they'd probably admit it if someone asked em about it. Someone asked them about why their ticket prices were as high once, and who ever it was being interviewed ( i can't remember lol) gave a pretty good response.

Theres also a interview somewhere where ed mentions maybe adding a couple of dollars onto ticket prices to give to various charities instead of speechifying the crowd and trying to convince them to give the money themselves

I wonder whether, if they could do the whole thing all over again, whether Ed might try a bit harder to like him?

harmless wrote:

Lament wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed was always incredibly well-meaning at the same time as fickle, reactive and impressionable.

He was pretty straight-up mean and aggressive towards some pretty easy targets fairly deep into Pearl Jam's career.

That's true. But anger is well-meaning.

Yeah, but anger towards Jewel in 2003 is perhaps getting a bit on the silly side.

stupidmop wrote:

harmless wrote:

Lament wrote:

harmless wrote:

Lament wrote:They've managed to keep CD prices high, and done so on their own terms. You have to respect that.

Yup. I empathise with the arguments about this band selling out. It's always fun to join in. But I didn't really get into them for their unrivalled ethics and indie cred. That was a road they travelled for a while and I enjoyed it, but it wasn't what this band was early on, and I never expected it to be what the band would always be.

What's funny is that the band are the ones responsible for getting the fanbase to believe that it was such an integral part of who they are/were. It ended up being so important to a lot of the fans because Pearl Jam was pretty insistent about how important it was to them.

Yeah, I guess so. I was always sceptical of that, simply because of how bloody large their fanbase was. It was world-wide, not "cult". Also, for their entire career they've been entertaining the idea of classic rock / HoF tradition whilst talking about ethics. There was always this paradoxical, contradictory tug-of-war going on between the quiet, ethical indie band and the rock gods who were friends with Springsteen, Uncle Neil, The Who and Bono. When a band becomes famous enough and achieves that kind of status, some of them are going to say "Yes please." I don't think they've done a 180 as much as just close the gap on their confusing bipolar approach (which, let's face it, has split fans down the middle on every record).

To be fair they'd probably admit it if someone asked em about it. Someone asked them about why their ticket prices were as high once, and who ever it was being interviewed ( i can't remember lol) gave a pretty good response.

Theres also a interview somewhere where ed mentions maybe adding a couple of dollars onto ticket prices to give to various charities instead of speechifying the crowd and trying to convince them to give the money themselves

That would be a cool interview. Get Gleason on this: "So guys, why the fuck have you sold out?"

Lament wrote:

harmless wrote:

Lament wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed was always incredibly well-meaning at the same time as fickle, reactive and impressionable.

He was pretty straight-up mean and aggressive towards some pretty easy targets fairly deep into Pearl Jam's career.

That's true. But anger is well-meaning.

Yeah, but anger towards Jewel in 2003 is perhaps getting a bit on the silly side.

Yeah that's... I don't even know.

Lament wrote:

harmless wrote:

Lament wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed was always incredibly well-meaning at the same time as fickle, reactive and impressionable.

He was pretty straight-up mean and aggressive towards some pretty easy targets fairly deep into Pearl Jam's career.

That's true. But anger is well-meaning.

Yeah, but anger towards Jewel in 2003 is perhaps getting a bit on the silly side.

Ed was hilariously assholish in 2003. More rants than any other year i think. There was that whole shitting on girls heads thing, and theres a boot somewhere where after a song he screams "Too much time betweens songs and can i get some fucking lights please" into the mike, which sounded beautifully diva-ish.

stip wrote:I am still ten kinds of pissed we never got the Doug getaway/getaway epk splice

During the headbanging scene? that would be amazing

stupidmop wrote:Ed was hilariously assholish in 2003. More rants than any other year i think. There was that whole shitting on girls heads thing, and theres a boot somewhere where after a song he screams "Too much time betweens songs and can i get some fucking lights please" into the mike, which sounded beautifully diva-ish.

That was the tour where he made fun of that girl's boobs, right?