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Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 4:07 am
by 96583UP
American justice system is the worst
Federal inmates' risk assessments determine everything from where a prisoner is incarcerated to what rehabilitation programs they are offered. After controlling for a number of variables, The Globe found Black and Indigenous inmates are more likely to get worse scores than white inmates, based solely on their race
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... sessments/

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 4:26 am
by Higgs
We really should stop referring to these systems as "justice" systems. They have no justice about them, for victim or perpetrators. These are systems of law, nothing more.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 4:45 am
by LetMeSleep
Interesting podcast about who the police serve.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/ra ... ecial-duty
What are the police for? Producer B.A. Parker started wondering this back in June, as Black Lives Matter protests and calls to “defund the police” ramped up. The question led her to a wild story of a stabbing on a New York City subway train, and the realization that, according to the law, the police don’t always have to protect us. Producer Sarah Qari joins Parker to dig into the legal background, which takes her all the way up to the Supreme Court... and then all the way back down to on-duty officers themselves.
B.A. Parker: The man told Joe, "Listen, I was part of the grand jury and I've got to tell you something. When those police officers testified, one of them told us, while you were there, rolling around on the floor with Gelman--"

Joe: He said, "I started to come out, but I thought he had a gun, so I closed the door and stayed inside." After we heard that, we got furious. He goes, "The whole group of us we all looked at each other like, "Did he actually just admit to not coming out to do his job and leave the subway full of people with a spree killer?"" He said, "After that," he goes, "I had to tell you." I'm sitting here going, holy shit. They left a spree killer, a known spree killer, a spree killing fugitive on a subway with probably 20, 25 people.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 5:20 am
by Bammer
Let’s say they are successful in abolishing the police.

Then what?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 5:44 am
by simple schoolboy
LetMeSleep wrote:Interesting podcast about who the police serve.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/ra ... ecial-duty
What are the police for? Producer B.A. Parker started wondering this back in June, as Black Lives Matter protests and calls to “defund the police” ramped up. The question led her to a wild story of a stabbing on a New York City subway train, and the realization that, according to the law, the police don’t always have to protect us. Producer Sarah Qari joins Parker to dig into the legal background, which takes her all the way up to the Supreme Court... and then all the way back down to on-duty officers themselves.
B.A. Parker: The man told Joe, "Listen, I was part of the grand jury and I've got to tell you something. When those police officers testified, one of them told us, while you were there, rolling around on the floor with Gelman--"

Joe: He said, "I started to come out, but I thought he had a gun, so I closed the door and stayed inside." After we heard that, we got furious. He goes, "The whole group of us we all looked at each other like, "Did he actually just admit to not coming out to do his job and leave the subway full of people with a spree killer?"" He said, "After that," he goes, "I had to tell you." I'm sitting here going, holy shit. They left a spree killer, a known spree killer, a spree killing fugitive on a subway with probably 20, 25 people.
Y'all are just learning about Warren vs. DC?

Its all so tiresome.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 12:24 pm
by Bi_3
Bammer wrote:Let’s say they are successful in abolishing the police.

Then what?

No cops, no jails, separate courts

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Tue October 27, 2020 1:30 am
by 96583UP
former cops start robbing people

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri October 30, 2020 1:41 am
by 96583UP
Clearly fake news. I blame Trump/America
Shocking surveillance footage has shown a Calgary cop slamming a handcuffed black woman face-first to the floor and breaking her nose in what a fellow officer has described as the 'worst use of force he has seen in 30 years'.

Calgary Police Constable Alex Dunn was charged with assault causing bodily harm over the violent incident that took place during the arrest of Dalia Kafi back in December 2017 in Calgary, in the western Canadian province of Alberta.

Dunn is currently standing trial for the alleged assault but has not been fired from the force and is currently working in an administrative role.

Video played at his trial Monday shows the police officer flipping Kafi to the ground in a 'judo-style throw' causing her face to bounce off the concrete and leaving her lying in a pool of blood.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... floor.html

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri October 30, 2020 4:05 pm
by Mickey
Incredibly normal behavior by Philly cops after the already unjustified shooting of Walter Wallace.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri October 30, 2020 5:20 pm
by surfndestroy
96583UP wrote:American justice system is the worst
Federal inmates' risk assessments determine everything from where a prisoner is incarcerated to what rehabilitation programs they are offered. After controlling for a number of variables, The Globe found Black and Indigenous inmates are more likely to get worse scores than white inmates, based solely on their race
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... sessments/
And men fare far worse than women. Justice is just as sexist as it is racist.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri October 30, 2020 5:28 pm
by simple schoolboy
Mickey wrote: Incredibly normal behavior by Philly cops after the already unjustified shooting of Walter Wallace.
Good to know they have just about the same level of reason and emotional maturity as your typical blac block group. :thumbsup:

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri October 30, 2020 5:31 pm
by BurtReynolds
surfndestroy wrote:
96583UP wrote:American justice system is the worst
Federal inmates' risk assessments determine everything from where a prisoner is incarcerated to what rehabilitation programs they are offered. After controlling for a number of variables, The Globe found Black and Indigenous inmates are more likely to get worse scores than white inmates, based solely on their race
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... sessments/
And men fare far worse than women. Justice is just as sexist as it is racist.
I like how that article starts out with the assertion "based solely on their race" then proceeds to not show that at all. It simply looks at the end result and concludes it must be the result of racists.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri October 30, 2020 5:45 pm
by Orpheus
simple schoolboy wrote:Good to know they have just about the same level of reason and emotional maturity as your typical blac block group. :thumbsup:
...you get that these people are public officials and have actual responsibilities to uphold, right? That they agreed to?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri October 30, 2020 6:03 pm
by simple schoolboy
Orpheus wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:Good to know they have just about the same level of reason and emotional maturity as your typical blac block group. :thumbsup:
...you get that these people are public officials and have actual responsibilities to uphold, right? That they agreed to?
This is kind of an oblique reference to the protest thread, where just like black bloc views every slow moving car as a mortal threat, so will the cops after that Philly ramming. Also, yeah, cops generally suck and are not hired for their discernment.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri October 30, 2020 6:06 pm
by Peeps
simple schoolboy wrote:
Mickey wrote: Incredibly normal behavior by Philly cops after the already unjustified shooting of Walter Wallace.
Good to know they have just about the same level of reason and emotional maturity as your typical blac block group. :thumbsup:
and then the cops took a picture of a woman cop and the baby of the mother from the car they smashed open and posted some BS about we are helping this baby get home or some nonsense

though they quickly deleted the tweet after it was discovered the circumstances

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri October 30, 2020 6:18 pm
by Mickey
simple schoolboy wrote:
Mickey wrote: Incredibly normal behavior by Philly cops after the already unjustified shooting of Walter Wallace.
Good to know they have just about the same level of reason and emotional maturity as your typical blac block group. :thumbsup:
Yup! Absolutely no difference between these two groups in terms of employment basis or legal standing either, great point!

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sat October 31, 2020 11:17 am
by B

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sat October 31, 2020 8:40 pm
by BurtReynolds

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sat October 31, 2020 9:13 pm
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54715327

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri November 13, 2020 7:29 pm
by Bi_3