Red Mosquito

Dude, we have had this exact conversation like ten times. I really don't want to do this again.

I mostly just wanted Joey to play The Last of Us.

I really want to play the Last of Us again.

I still haven't finished Left Behind.

I wish you dipshits would stop talking about this dumb fucking game

I want to play Civilization, but I've lost too many hours to that series.

Left Behind is excellent.

Can't wait for the sequel!

I'm not sure they could pull it off. The ending was so perfect, and I can't imagine how they would successfully set up a plot that worked for a sequel. But yea, if they do one, I'm all over it.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Mecca wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Mecca wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Mecca wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:gross

I would've assumed that you could differentiate between "I don't like it" not necessarily meaning something is "bad art" and yet here we are

The only reason I would dislike something is because it is bad

this is about to devolve into a "well that's just like your opinion" conversation and I refuse to go down that path again. "It's bad" has a whole different connotation than just saying "I don't like it" especially when talking about a game that a lot of people really enjoy. Personally, Last of Us isn't for me, but I'd never call it bad art.

I fundamentally disagree. I know I and others have been over this a hundred times already. This essentially boils down to objectivity (not real) versus subjectivity. Whether or not other people enjoy something has no bearing on whether it's any good.

"I don't like bad things. I don't like this, therefore it is bad" is kind of an insular way to view anything up to and including art. Its like you're refusing to accept another perspective to just label this game bad art. I don't care if you like the game or not, I just don't understand how you jump to "bad" as opposed to "not for me." It's not like it's some shitty movie tie in transformers game

It's not "it's bad because I don't like it," it's "it's bad because of this, that, and this, and therefore I don't like it." You are still approaching this as if there can be some kind of objective "good" removed from one's subjective reactions, which is a fallacy.

There is an objective good and it's part of my whole point or at least your logic doesn't follow itself. How can I look at a game like Last of Us, see that it is a well made game in many respects, but it isn't for me and not think of it as a bad game? Finding perspective is literally removing yourself from subjective reactions. That you think that's a fallacy or impossible to do might explain your stubbornness.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I wish you dipshits would stop talking about this dumb fucking game

Or 1 solitary dipshit could just shut the fuck up already and let the rest of us discuss high art.

CopperTom wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I wish you dipshits would stop talking about this dumb fucking game

Or 1 solitary dipshit could just shut the fuck up already and let the rest of us discuss high art.

You really are the worst.

Mecca wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Mecca wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Mecca wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Mecca wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:gross

I would've assumed that you could differentiate between "I don't like it" not necessarily meaning something is "bad art" and yet here we are

The only reason I would dislike something is because it is bad

this is about to devolve into a "well that's just like your opinion" conversation and I refuse to go down that path again. "It's bad" has a whole different connotation than just saying "I don't like it" especially when talking about a game that a lot of people really enjoy. Personally, Last of Us isn't for me, but I'd never call it bad art.

I fundamentally disagree. I know I and others have been over this a hundred times already. This essentially boils down to objectivity (not real) versus subjectivity. Whether or not other people enjoy something has no bearing on whether it's any good.

"I don't like bad things. I don't like this, therefore it is bad" is kind of an insular way to view anything up to and including art. Its like you're refusing to accept another perspective to just label this game bad art. I don't care if you like the game or not, I just don't understand how you jump to "bad" as opposed to "not for me." It's not like it's some shitty movie tie in transformers game

It's not "it's bad because I don't like it," it's "it's bad because of this, that, and this, and therefore I don't like it." You are still approaching this as if there can be some kind of objective "good" removed from one's subjective reactions, which is a fallacy.

There is an objective good and it's part of my whole point or at least your logic doesn't follow itself. How can I look at a game like Last of Us, see that it is a well made game in many respects, but it isn't for me and not think of it as a bad game? Finding perspective is literally removing yourself from subjective reactions. That you think that's a fallacy or impossible to do might explain your stubbornness.

Again, this ground has been covered, but I fundamentally disagree and think what you're describing is delusional (and worthless) nonsense.

tragabigzanda wrote:I mostly just wanted Joey to play The Last of Us.

I don't know what that game even is but I can promise you that I will not ever play it. Sorry, Trag. But I'm not a gamer.

Some Battlefield 1 campaign gameplay footage.
http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/10/01/12 ... r-gameplay

jwfocker wrote:I really want to play the Last of Us again.

This thread inspired me to replay it again. Turns out the remastered PS4 version is 50% off this week on the playstation store.

mf wrote:

jwfocker wrote:I really want to play the Last of Us again.

This thread inspired me to replay it again. Turns out the remastered PS4 version is 50% off this week on the playstation store.

You can't refuse a deal like that.

tragabigzanda wrote:I'm not sure they could pull it off. The ending was so perfect, and I can't imagine how they would successfully set up a plot that worked for a sequel. But yea, if they do one, I'm all over it.

Good point. I'm not sure how they could pull it off either. It's probably why we haven't seen one yet but a sequel on the current generation of consoles would be a smart play on their part.

I can't stop playing NBA 2k17.

I might replay the masterpiece that is the Last of Us before Tomb Raider comes to the PS4.

Monkey_Driven wrote:I can't stop playing NBA 2k17.

I might replay the masterpiece that is the Last of Us before Tomb Raider comes to the PS4.

That Tomb Raider game looks great.