Red Mosquito

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:The guy I know in Hollywood and connections to all things Star Wars said:

Spoiler: show

We went to a Holiday party last night and I spoke with some people closely associated with the production.

Ben Mendelsohn's role was initially much, much larger. Tarkin was barely in the original screenplay and there was no Princess Leia in Gary Whitta's original script.

Krennic was originally a Grand Admiral (hence the uniform) and he was Tarkin and even Vader's superior. As has been previously reported, Jyn & Cassian Andor survived the end of the film and Jyn's role was also much larger.

From my understanding, Mendolsohn and Felicity Jones were initially disappointed with their reduced roles (Whitaker had a larger role, too, but he was magnanimous about it). There wasn't any "bad blood", just disappointment. Mendolsohn thought this would be his "huge break" into American cinema but with a largely reduced role, that remains to be seen.

First of all, I love the R1 characters and think they are far more compelling and developed than almost anyone in TFA, most of whom I can barely even recall.

But I do think those script changes, if true, are a shame (except for the ending deaths). It sounds like the Disney machine at work trying to cram in nostalgia pandering. Krennic would have been more interesting in his original form.

dimejinky99 wrote:Figured out my problem with this film.

It's a film shot within current tastes. It could be a marvel film. Every film is just film shot like that now.

It's 'hip'. It's 'current'

tragabigzanda wrote:I liked this movie better than TFA. I have a hunch, and Joey's spoiler seems to confirm it, that the original cut was probably superior (though I also liked Jyn & Cassian's ending in this).

theplatypus wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Figured out my problem with this film.

It's a film shot within current tastes. It could be a marvel film. Every film is just film shot like that now.

It's 'hip'. It's 'current'

I honestly have no idea what you mean by this. What makes it 'hip'? How does it look Marvel-ish? That seems completely off the mark to me

Monkey_Driven wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Figured out my problem with this film.

It's a film shot within current tastes. It could be a marvel film. Every film is just film shot like that now.

It's 'hip'. It's 'current'

I honestly have no idea what you mean by this. What makes it 'hip'? How does it look Marvel-ish? That seems completely off the mark to me

This movie did not feel like a Marvel movie at all. There were actual stakes and the cinematography was light years better.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:So in any war movie I've ever liked, I would usually identify with a main character and generally care more about them than everyone else. Yes, it was always a bummer when the other characters die, but always hits harder when the main character dies. This was a war movie through and through, and a good one at that. It starts out with why our main character is going to war, which gives us a reason to root for her. In this case we knew the outcome of the mission but I don't think that detracted too much from it. I still found myself on edge during the battle on Scarif.

I think the story moved along fine. Achieve some intermediate goals to forward the progress of the end goal.

The cinematography aspect was brilliant as I expected from Edwards. Beautiful, really.

I thought all of the SW tie ins were fine. I think the whole "force is with me" thing was a little overkill, especially with no Jedi featured in the movie. (Which it didn't need)

I did really enjoy hearing "General Syndulla" over the intercom.

I can't say this is better or worse than any other Star Wars film because they all are tied together in such a different way. As far as enjoyment, I enjoyed this more than TFA.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Is Jimmy Smits' appearance the first real nod to the prequels in these new ones? That's a bummer. I guess they really do exist.

There was a throwaway comment about clones in TFA, which I guess would count.

Yeah, there were a few sideways nods but nothing as concrete as Jimmy Smits. Probably the biggest one is that Captain Phasma's suit is made from a Naboo ship. But I don't think that's explicitly stated in the film, just in the supplemental materials. So, beyond that, the specific reference to using humans instead of clones again is the biggest one.

Also, I guess in the theatrical cut we see a flag hanging outside Maz's place that has the same symbol on it as the symbol that's on Anakin's podracer. It has been removed from the Blue Ray release, apparently.

http://www.slashfilm.com/anakin-skywalk ... reference/

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Is Jimmy Smits' appearance the first real nod to the prequels in these new ones? That's a bummer. I guess they really do exist.

There was a throwaway comment about clones in TFA, which I guess would count.

Yeah, there were a few sideways nods but nothing as concrete as Jimmy Smits. Probably the biggest one is that Captain Phasma's suit is made from a Naboo ship. But I don't think that's explicitly stated in the film, just in the supplemental materials. So, beyond that, the specific reference to using humans instead of clones again is the biggest one.

Also, I guess in the theatrical cut we see a flag hanging outside Maz's place that has the same symbol on it as the symbol that's on Anakin's podracer. It has been removed from the Blue Ray release, apparently.

http://www.slashfilm.com/anakin-skywalk ... reference/

Weird. The flag changes seem totally unnecessary.