Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri April 13, 2018 4:19 pm
ALE.H. Ruddock wrote:The new Ghostbusters didn't use men and everyone seemed ok with it
ALE.H. Ruddock wrote:The new Ghostbusters didn't use men and everyone seemed ok with it
You sure do seem dismissive about this, though. Do you think anyone who complains is just complaining to complain? Do you think it's possible that some people who speak out and take issue with these things have any valid points/observations/concerns?dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Or maybe some people just think representation matters and that Hollywood has been racist, elitist, and tone def far too long. But, sure, reduce it to "everyone is assholes," sure.
Don’t put words in my mouth. I was saying people are addicted to outrage these days and they’re assholes about it. Nothing to do with representation at all, people just love complaining. About everything.
durdencommatyler wrote:You sure do seem dismissive about this, though. Do you think anyone who complains is just complaining to complain? Do you think it's possible that some people who speak out and take issue with these things have any valid points/observations/concerns?dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Or maybe some people just think representation matters and that Hollywood has been racist, elitist, and tone def far too long. But, sure, reduce it to "everyone is assholes," sure.
Don’t put words in my mouth. I was saying people are addicted to outrage these days and they’re assholes about it. Nothing to do with representation at all, people just love complaining. About everything.
I agree that people love to complain and that we're at a strange place in culture now where complaining is somehow tantamount to celebrity. Not every opinion needs to be screamed into a microphone. But it seems to me like you're being unnecessarily cavalier about issues that are important to massive groups of people. And speaking up, holding those with power responsible, shouldn't be reduced to "blah blah blah" and "outrage addicts."
We just have differing fundamental philosophies on this, then.dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:You sure do seem dismissive about this, though. Do you think anyone who complains is just complaining to complain? Do you think it's possible that some people who speak out and take issue with these things have any valid points/observations/concerns?dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Or maybe some people just think representation matters and that Hollywood has been racist, elitist, and tone def far too long. But, sure, reduce it to "everyone is assholes," sure.
Don’t put words in my mouth. I was saying people are addicted to outrage these days and they’re assholes about it. Nothing to do with representation at all, people just love complaining. About everything.
I agree that people love to complain and that we're at a strange place in culture now where complaining is somehow tantamount to celebrity. Not every opinion needs to be screamed into a microphone. But it seems to me like you're being unnecessarily cavalier about issues that are important to massive groups of people. And speaking up, holding those with power responsible, shouldn't be reduced to "blah blah blah" and "outrage addicts."
Maybe I wasn’t clear when I said I really don’t care either way about this kind of thing. It’s bullshit and mostly toxic and I just stay away from it. It’s ruined Star Wars for me to a huge degree for sure. I have no interest in engaging in it. That’s not being cavalier that’s just not wanting to take it on. What purpose does it serve to let it into your head other than to do your head in and be a downer?
Not my circus, not my monkeys.
durdencommatyler wrote:We just have differing fundamental philosophies on this, then.dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:You sure do seem dismissive about this, though. Do you think anyone who complains is just complaining to complain? Do you think it's possible that some people who speak out and take issue with these things have any valid points/observations/concerns?dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Or maybe some people just think representation matters and that Hollywood has been racist, elitist, and tone def far too long. But, sure, reduce it to "everyone is assholes," sure.
Don’t put words in my mouth. I was saying people are addicted to outrage these days and they’re assholes about it. Nothing to do with representation at all, people just love complaining. About everything.
I agree that people love to complain and that we're at a strange place in culture now where complaining is somehow tantamount to celebrity. Not every opinion needs to be screamed into a microphone. But it seems to me like you're being unnecessarily cavalier about issues that are important to massive groups of people. And speaking up, holding those with power responsible, shouldn't be reduced to "blah blah blah" and "outrage addicts."
Maybe I wasn’t clear when I said I really don’t care either way about this kind of thing. It’s bullshit and mostly toxic and I just stay away from it. It’s ruined Star Wars for me to a huge degree for sure. I have no interest in engaging in it. That’s not being cavalier that’s just not wanting to take it on. What purpose does it serve to let it into your head other than to do your head in and be a downer?
Not my circus, not my monkeys.
On checking out. "Not my circus, not my monkeys." "...not wanting to take it on." I'm talking about the value of the things you mentioned earlier in this thread and then blah blah blahed. It's fine to blah blah blah those things. I'm not saying it makes you or anyone else a bad person. I just disagree with blah blah blahing these things.dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:We just have differing fundamental philosophies on this, then.dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:You sure do seem dismissive about this, though. Do you think anyone who complains is just complaining to complain? Do you think it's possible that some people who speak out and take issue with these things have any valid points/observations/concerns?dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Or maybe some people just think representation matters and that Hollywood has been racist, elitist, and tone def far too long. But, sure, reduce it to "everyone is assholes," sure.
Don’t put words in my mouth. I was saying people are addicted to outrage these days and they’re assholes about it. Nothing to do with representation at all, people just love complaining. About everything.
I agree that people love to complain and that we're at a strange place in culture now where complaining is somehow tantamount to celebrity. Not every opinion needs to be screamed into a microphone. But it seems to me like you're being unnecessarily cavalier about issues that are important to massive groups of people. And speaking up, holding those with power responsible, shouldn't be reduced to "blah blah blah" and "outrage addicts."
Maybe I wasn’t clear when I said I really don’t care either way about this kind of thing. It’s bullshit and mostly toxic and I just stay away from it. It’s ruined Star Wars for me to a huge degree for sure. I have no interest in engaging in it. That’s not being cavalier that’s just not wanting to take it on. What purpose does it serve to let it into your head other than to do your head in and be a downer?
Not my circus, not my monkeys.
On what? I’m not all that sure were talking about the same thing
Wait. Someone thinks that a clone was still alive by the time of RotJ?dimejinky99 wrote:bune wrote:Or Maori actors.dimejinky99 wrote:WIll they white wash it or use Asian actors though. This is the question
You’ve just reminded. Outrage in Star Wars when Filoni said captain Rex can be seen in return of the Jedi and a lot of the fanbase got outraged cos all the clones are meant to be Maori and get the guy in ROTJ is clearly white.
People are outrage addicted assholes. None more than Star Wars fans.
Now I get ye. I’m just past an age where I can give anything of value to stuff like that. I’ve tilted at the all the windmills at one point of another. Probably ending up with the whole marriage equality campaign here and really working hard for it and fundraising and canvassing n stuff. I’m sorta burned out when it comes to this stuff but I definitely think it’s pointless to t y take it on in the online realm. Totally counterproductive imo.durdencommatyler wrote:On checking out. "Not my circus, not my monkeys." "...not wanting to take it on." I'm talking about the value of the things you mentioned earlier in this thread and then blah blah blahed. It's fine to blah blah blah those things. I'm not saying it makes you or anyone else a bad person. I just disagree with blah blah blahing these things.dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:We just have differing fundamental philosophies on this, then.dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:You sure do seem dismissive about this, though. Do you think anyone who complains is just complaining to complain? Do you think it's possible that some people who speak out and take issue with these things have any valid points/observations/concerns?dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Or maybe some people just think representation matters and that Hollywood has been racist, elitist, and tone def far too long. But, sure, reduce it to "everyone is assholes," sure.
Don’t put words in my mouth. I was saying people are addicted to outrage these days and they’re assholes about it. Nothing to do with representation at all, people just love complaining. About everything.
I agree that people love to complain and that we're at a strange place in culture now where complaining is somehow tantamount to celebrity. Not every opinion needs to be screamed into a microphone. But it seems to me like you're being unnecessarily cavalier about issues that are important to massive groups of people. And speaking up, holding those with power responsible, shouldn't be reduced to "blah blah blah" and "outrage addicts."
Maybe I wasn’t clear when I said I really don’t care either way about this kind of thing. It’s bullshit and mostly toxic and I just stay away from it. It’s ruined Star Wars for me to a huge degree for sure. I have no interest in engaging in it. That’s not being cavalier that’s just not wanting to take it on. What purpose does it serve to let it into your head other than to do your head in and be a downer?
Not my circus, not my monkeys.
On what? I’m not all that sure were talking about the same thing
I agree that bringing this stuff online can seem pointless and probably is much of the time. The internet is so toxic anymore.dimejinky99 wrote:Now I get ye. I’m just past an age where I can give anything of value to stuff like that. I’ve tilted at the all the windmills at one point of another. Probably ending up with the whole marriage equality campaign here and really working hard for it and fundraising and canvassing n stuff. I’m sorta burned out when it comes to this stuff but I definitely think it’s pointless to t y take it on in the online realm. Totally counterproductive imo.durdencommatyler wrote:On checking out. "Not my circus, not my monkeys." "...not wanting to take it on." I'm talking about the value of the things you mentioned earlier in this thread and then blah blah blahed. It's fine to blah blah blah those things. I'm not saying it makes you or anyone else a bad person. I just disagree with blah blah blahing these things.dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:We just have differing fundamental philosophies on this, then.dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:You sure do seem dismissive about this, though. Do you think anyone who complains is just complaining to complain? Do you think it's possible that some people who speak out and take issue with these things have any valid points/observations/concerns?dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Or maybe some people just think representation matters and that Hollywood has been racist, elitist, and tone def far too long. But, sure, reduce it to "everyone is assholes," sure.
Don’t put words in my mouth. I was saying people are addicted to outrage these days and they’re assholes about it. Nothing to do with representation at all, people just love complaining. About everything.
I agree that people love to complain and that we're at a strange place in culture now where complaining is somehow tantamount to celebrity. Not every opinion needs to be screamed into a microphone. But it seems to me like you're being unnecessarily cavalier about issues that are important to massive groups of people. And speaking up, holding those with power responsible, shouldn't be reduced to "blah blah blah" and "outrage addicts."
Maybe I wasn’t clear when I said I really don’t care either way about this kind of thing. It’s bullshit and mostly toxic and I just stay away from it. It’s ruined Star Wars for me to a huge degree for sure. I have no interest in engaging in it. That’s not being cavalier that’s just not wanting to take it on. What purpose does it serve to let it into your head other than to do your head in and be a downer?
Not my circus, not my monkeys.
On what? I’m not all that sure were talking about the same thing
bune wrote:Wait. Someone thinks that a clone was still alive by the time of RotJ?dimejinky99 wrote:bune wrote:Or Maori actors.dimejinky99 wrote:WIll they white wash it or use Asian actors though. This is the question
You’ve just reminded. Outrage in Star Wars when Filoni said captain Rex can be seen in return of the Jedi and a lot of the fanbase got outraged cos all the clones are meant to be Maori and get the guy in ROTJ is clearly white.
People are outrage addicted assholes. None more than Star Wars fans.
Don’t think so. I’m pretty sure I read a newer article in the last month or so confirming it.durdencommatyler wrote:I'm pretty sure they walked that back after the white-washing accusations. And have since said that it wasn't Rex.
I mean, we know that Rex survived through the Battle of Endor. We know he was there at the battle. But I don't think Rex is the guy we see in Jedi that everyone was speculating could be Rex. I could be wrong, though. This isn't something I've really kept up on. I just remember them walking it back after the white-washing complaints and I hadn't seen any confirmation since.wease wrote:Don’t think so. I’m pretty sure I read a newer article in the last month or so confirming it.durdencommatyler wrote:I'm pretty sure they walked that back after the white-washing accusations. And have since said that it wasn't Rex.
Yeah I think this is the correct event here. Rex did survive, but they walked back that the guy in that scene was actually him.durdencommatyler wrote:I mean, we know that Rex survived through the Battle of Endor. We know he was there at the battle. But I don't think Rex is the guy we see in Jedi that everyone was speculating could be Rex. I could be wrong, though. This isn't something I've really kept up on. I just remember them walking it back after the white-washing complaints and I hadn't seen any confirmation since.wease wrote:Don’t think so. I’m pretty sure I read a newer article in the last month or so confirming it.durdencommatyler wrote:I'm pretty sure they walked that back after the white-washing accusations. And have since said that it wasn't Rex.
Thank god someone else asked firstBurtReynolds wrote:who the fuck is Rex
