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Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 1:28 am
by Bi_3

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 1:46 am
by simple schoolboy
A neighborhood organization is trying to put together a private security force. It appears the plan is for affluent areas to be policed more aggressively than poorer areas. Sounds great.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 2:32 am
by verb_to_trust
simple schoolboy wrote:
A neighborhood organization is trying to put together a private security force. It appears the plan is for affluent areas to be policed more aggressively than poorer areas. Sounds great.
Abolish the police!! (Hire our own police!!)

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 7:48 am
by Higgs
Bi_3 wrote:
B wrote:
macphisto wrote:A few years ago a cop did roll up and tell me to knock it off due to some complaints. gOoD tHiNg I’m WhItE oR i WoUlD hAvE bEeN mUrDeReD iN fRoNt Of My FaMiLy OvEr FiReWoRkS!
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/07/02 ... rsey-city/

Googling and presenting a single low context link implying it’s evidence of an unacknowledged pattern is basically the anti-vaxxer thought process. Police interactions are not controlled experiments that can be cleanly evaluated against each other, even in aggregate (an important reason why body cams are so important in keeping the cops honest).

And look, Mcphisto is a troll, but it’s not a privilege flex to point out that consciously choosing to not do things that draw police attention is a good way to not draw police attention.
Do you not think it's an issue that you would rightly have some level of concern if you did happen to have police interaction for whatever reason though?

It sounds as though there is a fear of your police in the US. And not just by "the bad guys". Crazy.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 8:20 am
by simple schoolboy
Is Minnesota gonna pop off again or is it too cold to do so?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 2:04 pm
by Bi_3
Higgs wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
B wrote:
macphisto wrote:A few years ago a cop did roll up and tell me to knock it off due to some complaints. gOoD tHiNg I’m WhItE oR i WoUlD hAvE bEeN mUrDeReD iN fRoNt Of My FaMiLy OvEr FiReWoRkS!
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/07/02 ... rsey-city/

Googling and presenting a single low context link implying it’s evidence of an unacknowledged pattern is basically the anti-vaxxer thought process. Police interactions are not controlled experiments that can be cleanly evaluated against each other, even in aggregate (an important reason why body cams are so important in keeping the cops honest).

And look, Mcphisto is a troll, but it’s not a privilege flex to point out that consciously choosing to not do things that draw police attention is a good way to not draw police attention.
Do you not think it's an issue that you would rightly have some level of concern if you did happen to have police interaction for whatever reason though?

It sounds as though there is a fear of your police in the US. And not just by "the bad guys". Crazy.
First, two things to remember about the US:

1.) Fear of law enforcement is entirely rational for demographic groups like black Americans who in the lifetimes of millions of living members of that community were legally terrorized by the police.

2.) It's a demonstrable fact that black Americans in particular were intentionally prevented from establishing generational wealth which has contributed to higher poverty (and in turn lower achievement levels) for decades.

IMwO (In My white Opinion for the acronym police) though, MacPhisto was poking at the legitimate question of where that cycle is today... are police criminalizing black communities with heavier presence there or are police being present where the crime is being disproportionatly committed? Somewhere in the middle probably, but that is not the messaging for either side and for Mac to imply it's largely behavioral/cultural or B to imply it's largely race really misses the bigger picture.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 4:56 pm
by Higgs
Question: are you scared of interaction with your police?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 6:35 pm
by verb_to_trust
Higgs wrote:Question: are you scared of interaction with your police?
No

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 6:42 pm
by Peeps
Higgs wrote:Question: are you scared of interaction with your police?

Not scared but also very cautious

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 7:38 pm
by epilogue
Peeps wrote:
Higgs wrote:Question: are you scared of interaction with your police?

Not scared but also very cautious
+1

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 8:37 pm
by surfndestroy
Peeps wrote:
Higgs wrote:Question: are you scared of interaction with your police?

Not scared but also very cautious
This.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri January 01, 2021 2:37 am
by McParadigm
Higgs wrote:Question: are you scared of interaction with your police?
I helped raise this man:
https://ksoo.com/south-dakota-inmate-ch ... up-jailer/

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri January 01, 2021 2:45 am
by verb_to_trust
McParadigm wrote:
Higgs wrote:Question: are you scared of interaction with your police?
I helped raise this man:
https://ksoo.com/south-dakota-inmate-ch ... up-jailer/

With tweets?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri January 01, 2021 2:50 am
by McParadigm
verb_to_trust wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Higgs wrote:Question: are you scared of interaction with your police?
I helped raise this man:
https://ksoo.com/south-dakota-inmate-ch ... up-jailer/

With tweets?
Mostly by him and his mom living with me, I guess. There wasn’t a Twitter then or i mighta tried that instead.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri January 01, 2021 3:42 am
by 96583UP
McParadigm wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Higgs wrote:Question: are you scared of interaction with your police?
I helped raise this man:
https://ksoo.com/south-dakota-inmate-ch ... up-jailer/

With tweets?
Mostly by him and his mom living with me, I guess. There wasn’t a Twitter then or i mighta tried that instead.
is he on RM? he might fit in
Twenty-three-year-old Cory Zobel, of Salem, is accused of shutting and locking a cell door behind a female jailer who was delivering property to another inmate.

According to court documents, Zobel told an officer he did it because he thought it was funny.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun January 03, 2021 10:28 am
by simple schoolboy
So help me, if we get a trend of these sorts of stories from center left publications rehabilitating the role of police...

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun January 03, 2021 7:14 pm
by knee tunes
simple schoolboy wrote: So help me, if we get a trend of these sorts of stories from center left publications rehabilitating the role of police...

If these stories exist and are often unheard, what's wrong with hearing them?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon January 04, 2021 7:08 am
by simple schoolboy
knee tunes wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote: So help me, if we get a trend of these sorts of stories from center left publications rehabilitating the role of police...

If these stories exist and are often unheard, what's wrong with hearing them?
If there is a rapid swing in how police are covered because the correct guy is POTUS, that's an issue. I made pretty clear that my concern was speculative, dependent on additional editorial choices to follow this story up with like.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon January 04, 2021 9:19 pm
by Norah
lol there have been plenty of feel good cop stories cycling through the media during the past four years

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon January 04, 2021 9:21 pm
by B
I bought a cop some banana pudding Saturday night, but when I got home I felt bad, so I called a black friend and apologized.