Red Mosquito

durdencommatyler wrote:That's probably fair. But his (Bodhi's) story worked for me. I would have loved more, sure. And his performance is heartbreaking. But I didn't find it lacking. For me, that character was Chirrut. I really liked him but wanted more.

wease wrote:They were talking on NPR this morning about how it had no opening crawl and that all the die-hard fans (us) were pissed off about it. I kept thinking, "um no, we're not pissed off about it at all."

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:That's probably fair. But his (Bodhi's) story worked for me. I would have loved more, sure. And his performance is heartbreaking. But I didn't find it lacking. For me, that character was Chirrut. I really liked him but wanted more.

Yeah, Ahmed was great in the role. But I feel like his arc was a missed opportunity after Whitaker's line about "losing one's mind." I wanted to see him change and become a quirkier character in some way. But he was still a good character as is.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:So in any war movie I've ever liked, I would usually identify with a main character and generally care more about them than everyone else. Yes, it was always a bummer when the other characters die, but always hits harder when the main character dies. This was a war movie through and through, and a good one at that. It starts out with why our main character is going to war, which gives us a reason to root for her. In this case we knew the outcome of the mission but I don't think that detracted too much from it. I still found myself on edge during the battle on Scarif.

I think the story moved along fine. Achieve some intermediate goals to forward the progress of the end goal.

The cinematography aspect was brilliant as I expected from Edwards. Beautiful, really.

I thought all of the SW tie ins were fine. I think the whole "force is with me" thing was a little overkill, especially with no Jedi featured in the movie. (Which it didn't need)

I did really enjoy hearing "General Syndulla" over the intercom.

I can't say this is better or worse than any other Star Wars film because they all are tied together in such a different way. As far as enjoyment, I enjoyed this more than TFA.

First paragraph stip

MissYouAllDay wrote:

wease wrote:They were talking on NPR this morning about how it had no opening crawl and that all the die-hard fans (us) were pissed off about it. I kept thinking, "um no, we're not pissed off about it at all."

NPR love speaking for people without really knowing what they're talking about. It's their bread and butter.

durdencommatyler wrote:I've said before and I'll reiterate now, Bodhi was a great character and his death was profound. I actually felt it in my chest and teared up. K2SO's death was the other meaningful and difficult death for me.

Baze wasn't as well developed but his death was powerful as well.

In terms of character arc, did anyone other than Finn and Rey have arcs in TFA? There are a lot of comparisons to be drawn, I think. Krennic was a great villain. Galen was a great mentor character. I just don't think the lack of character arc complaint holds up. Especially in the context of "A Star Wars Story."

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I'm not convinced an arc with progression is the only way to make a character memorable and interesting. It's one way, and the most common way, but not the only way. Especially in a movie that is largely about martyrs; people putting their deeply held beliefs and convictions to the ultimate test.

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I've said before and I'll reiterate now, Bodhi was a great character and his death was profound. I actually felt it in my chest and teared up. K2SO's death was the other meaningful and difficult death for me.

Baze wasn't as well developed but his death was powerful as well.

In terms of character arc, did anyone other than Finn and Rey have arcs in TFA? There are a lot of comparisons to be drawn, I think. Krennic was a great villain. Galen was a great mentor character. I just don't think the lack of character arc complaint holds up. Especially in the context of "A Star Wars Story."

Han and Ren both had arcs as well (important ones). Every major character went on a significant journey during that film.


I really enjoyed Krennic as a villain. Galen was pretty strong, too. It was the main team that I thought was thin, though the actors did a lot with a little. I agree that there was a great story to tell with Bodhi, but they didn't tell it - they just hinted at its margins.

stip wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I'm not convinced an arc with progression is the only way to make a character memorable and interesting. It's one way, and the most common way, but not the only way. Especially in a movie that is largely about martyrs; people putting their deeply held beliefs and convictions to the ultimate test.

Oh sure, but likewise I never felt that any of these guys were particularly tested either. These were people kind of waiting around to die, and then an opportunity was furnished for them to do so. They were granted their good death, but there was no moment where they had to look back, question what they were doing, wonder if they wanted to be somewhere else. No moment where they felt forsaken and rose above it based on the strength or purity of their conviction.

tragabigzanda wrote:Yea, the execution and screen time for his character blows. But the arc is pretty undeniable I think.