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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 4:37 am
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Reptillian

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 4:45 am
by McParadigm
verb_to_trust wrote:Obviously Clinton over Drumpf but pardon me for not doing cartwheels
The brilliant thing about politics is that it takes literally an entire world's worth of overlapping, complex and I'm measurably vast decisions, and focuses them all on meaningless human characters.

This gifts us the beautiful ease of scorn, where otherwise there would only be madness.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 5:14 am
by BurtReynolds
McParadigm wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Obviously Clinton over Drumpf but pardon me for not doing cartwheels
The brilliant thing about politics is that it takes literally an entire world's worth of overlapping, complex and I'm measurably vast decisions, and focuses them all on meaningless human characters.

This gifts us the beautiful ease of scorn, where otherwise there would only be madness.
God bless America

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 5:22 am
by BurtReynolds
I hope Ohio elects a good president for me this year.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 1:57 pm
by dimejinky99
Have a question/thought lads.

The debates are ahead right?

I watched hillarys speech this morning and it was great. But in a debate situation, I can see two things happening. Trump is going to spend his 2 minutes on whatever the topic, answering the question for about 20 seconds and attacking her for the remainder of the time.

But as she said; he is very easily rattled. And on top of that he hasnt yet rolled off any stats about economy jobs unemployment growth health, none of it. He isn't prepared or educated about any of that stuff.


So I can see him just on the attack all night unable to answer.

So my question is, will that still win over on his supporters? Will the moderator allow him do it? And what's the likely outcome?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 2:21 pm
by verb_to_trust
Trump's supporters will eat up Donald in attack mode. It won't turn them off when he gets caught with his pants down on policy. I have a hard time figuring out how he wins over anyone who is undecided though.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 2:30 pm
by Simple Torture
I think Clinton will be prepared for the ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK strategy because that's how Mitt Romney came out against Obama during their first debate in 2012. No one was expecting it, and Obama--for one of the first times that I remember--was taken aback and wasn't able to defend himself in a coherent way. There was a big blip in the polling after that, probably one of the only times when Romney really looked like he was going to win. Obama's handlers prepped him for the next few debates and they went fine; I'm sure Clinton's team will have all sorts of prepared lines to deal with attacks about her e-mails, Benghazi, etc.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 2:51 pm
by dprival78
trump needs to hammer the email server and 'clinton cash' aspects to have any shot. he has to push her untrustworthiness, unlawfulness, wall street connections, and history of trading access/info/etc for clinton foundation contributions.

i wouldn't think that it would be that hard of a sell since this stuff is pretty obvious.. but do i think he can articulate these things in a convincing way without sounding like too much of a crazy person? and in a manner that can sway people on the fence? with that shrew working him up in a debate setting?

not really.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 3:01 pm
by Electromatic
McParadigm wrote:
96583UP wrote:i miss obama already
That's un-American. Skepticism and cynicism are our replacements for informed decision, because informed decision is way too hard and cynicism is deliciously cheap.
Yet, the more information that one seeks and finds about politics, the more cynical one becomes.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 3:17 pm
by dimejinky99
Simple Torture wrote:I think Clinton will be prepared for the ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK strategy because that's how Mitt Romney came out against Obama during their first debate in 2012. No one was expecting it, and Obama--for one of the first times that I remember--was taken aback and wasn't able to defend himself in a coherent way. There was a big blip in the polling after that, probably one of the only times when Romney really looked like he was going to win. Obama's handlers prepped him for the next few debates and they went fine; I'm sure Clinton's team will have all sorts of prepared lines to deal with attacks about her e-mails, Benghazi, etc.

Cool thanks. It's all won or lost on the debates I reckon. He can shout her down and do the scare thing but when he isnt able to appear in any way emphatic or even aware of the plight of those being left behind and instead just goes me me me I will fix this, without backing it up with facts, he will be in big trouble.

I'd love her to ask him, Donald when was the last time you walked down an American street?

He walks from lobby to limo all the time. He doesn't leave trump tower #001 and walk down the street for a coffee or hotdog. She should use the fact that he lives totally in an enclosed unreal environment, that the vast majority of people have never experienced.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 3:35 pm
by Simple Torture
The election will probably be won and lost based on how Americans feel the economy is doing in October. Not how it's actually doing, but how they feel it's going.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 3:37 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
I want to quit Facebook just because of the election. I didn't realize how many of my "friends" were insufferable.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 3:43 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Obviously Clinton over Drumpf but pardon me for not doing cartwheels
The brilliant thing about politics is that it takes literally an entire world's worth of overlapping, complex and I'm measurably vast decisions, and focuses them all on meaningless human characters.

This gifts us the beautiful ease of scorn, where otherwise there would only be madness.

This could be my favorite McP post.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 3:51 pm
by Kaius
Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Obviously Clinton over Drumpf but pardon me for not doing cartwheels
The brilliant thing about politics is that it takes literally an entire world's worth of overlapping, complex and I'm measurably vast decisions, and focuses them all on meaningless human characters.

This gifts us the beautiful ease of scorn, where otherwise there would only be madness.

This could be my favorite McP post.
It's the typo, isn't it?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 4:26 pm
by Strat
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I want to quit Facebook just because of the election. I didn't realize how many of my "friends" were insufferable.
im sorry :(

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 4:32 pm
by Strat
This is how the donald will "debate". and this is how he will fail. he can' tput together a coherent thought or take a position on anything.



and his supporters won't give two shits.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 4:36 pm
by dimejinky99
Imagine he wins and built a wall. Physical and cultural. Like China. And the rest of the world wouldn't get to see star wars episode 8. Or a trump tower in Dublin:.. Imagine...



TRUMP2016

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 4:56 pm
by spike
McParadigm wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Obviously Clinton over Drumpf but pardon me for not doing cartwheels
The brilliant thing about politics is that it takes literally an entire world's worth of overlapping, complex and I'm measurably vast decisions, and focuses them all on meaningless human characters.

This gifts us the beautiful ease of scorn, where otherwise there would only be madness.
this is why i generally vote for party, not candidate.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 4:57 pm
by Theodore Bundy
dprival78 wrote:but do i think he can articulate these things in a convincing way without sounding like too much of a crazy person? and in a manner that can sway people on the fence? with that shrew working him up in a debate setting?
Wasn't following you at first, but I'm with you on that last sentence, bro!

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri July 29, 2016 4:58 pm
by McParadigm
Kaius wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Obviously Clinton over Drumpf but pardon me for not doing cartwheels
The brilliant thing about politics is that it takes literally an entire world's worth of overlapping, complex and I'm measurably vast decisions, and focuses them all on meaningless human characters.

This gifts us the beautiful ease of scorn, where otherwise there would only be madness.

This could be my favorite McP post.
It's the typo, isn't it?
I'm measurably vast. Autocorrect tells me so.