McParadigm wrote:Yeah Sweden is doing super.
Here’s the thing: people don’t just die from this. They die horribly. They drown in their own fluids. They lie tightly restrained in an emergency room while something pink and wrong and frothy is pulled out of their lungs. The ones who aren’t intubated scream for help until their lungs stop feeding their voice. And then, trapped and scared and often alone, they asphyxiate.
We can save tens of thousands of people from having to die this way. It requires us to behave in a manner that is prudent, calculated, humane, and (yes) expensive. It requires personal sacrifice. It requires struggle. But this is also one of the defining moments of your life. How you respond to this moment...what you’re willing to sacrifice, and who you’re willing to abandon to protect what’s left...is a revealer of your truest self.
This is history book stuff. You, right now, are living, breathing history. This is the version of you that stands before all eternity to be judged.
The boss of each company I work for will read the above statement along with the factual numbers and interpret them in completely opposite ways, it isn't just maddening but it is really starting to take a toll on me personally.
I can't figure out if those healthcare workers are with or against the protestors. I assume they're against, but then shouldn't they be facing the protestors?
Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Sounds like things are going great in Georgia!
Though, of course, they also have the same population as Sweden and only half as many deaths, so.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
PHATJ wrote:95% of COVID-19 deaths in MN have been people aged 60 or older. 99% were 50 and older.
Less than 1% of the deaths have been people aged 50 or younger.
In Minnesota, 0.0667% of those that have contracted COVID-19 have died (343 out of 5,136 cases).
Minnesota has approximately 5.7 million people in 2020. That means 0.0009% of Minnesotans have contracted the virus (in other words, 99.9991% haven’t) and a minuscule 0.00006% of our population has died from COVID-19 (and 99.99994% haven’t died). And remember, as I stated before, the VAST majority of all COVID-19 deaths have stricken people that have major underlying contributing factors.
These are the facts. And numbers like these should not scare the average Joe and his family, and they definitely don’t warrant a continued state wide mandatory shutdown.
6.67% of people who have contracted it have died. Not .0667%.
Not to mention more than half the cases there are still listed as "active". So 13.6% of resolved cases have been deaths. (Of course, the real number is likely much lower since Minnesota isn't doing a whole lot of testing.)
I realized after posting this at like 4am last night that I forgot to convert the math into correct percentages. That’s what happens when you post while being completely exhausted.
PHATJ wrote:95% of COVID-19 deaths in MN have been people aged 60 or older. 99% were 50 and older.
Less than 1% of the deaths have been people aged 50 or younger.
In Minnesota, 0.0667% of those that have contracted COVID-19 have died (343 out of 5,136 cases).
Minnesota has approximately 5.7 million people in 2020. That means 0.0009% of Minnesotans have contracted the virus (in other words, 99.9991% haven’t) and a minuscule 0.00006% of our population has died from COVID-19 (and 99.99994% haven’t died). And remember, as I stated before, the VAST majority of all COVID-19 deaths have stricken people that have major underlying contributing factors.
These are the facts. And numbers like these should not scare the average Joe and his family, and they definitely don’t warrant a continued state wide mandatory shutdown.
6.67% of people who have contracted it have died. Not .0667%.
Not to mention more than half the cases there are still listed as "active". So 13.6% of resolved cases have been deaths. (Of course, the real number is likely much lower since Minnesota isn't doing a whole lot of testing.)
I realized after posting this at like 4am last night that I forgot to convert the math into correct percentages. That’s what happens when you post while being completely exhausted.
What's got you so worn out, J?
Let me tell you, Homer Simpson is cock of nothing!
- C. Montgomery Burns
PHATJ wrote:95% of COVID-19 deaths in MN have been people aged 60 or older. 99% were 50 and older.
Less than 1% of the deaths have been people aged 50 or younger.
In Minnesota, 0.0667% of those that have contracted COVID-19 have died (343 out of 5,136 cases).
Minnesota has approximately 5.7 million people in 2020. That means 0.0009% of Minnesotans have contracted the virus (in other words, 99.9991% haven’t) and a minuscule 0.00006% of our population has died from COVID-19 (and 99.99994% haven’t died). And remember, as I stated before, the VAST majority of all COVID-19 deaths have stricken people that have major underlying contributing factors.
These are the facts. And numbers like these should not scare the average Joe and his family, and they definitely don’t warrant a continued state wide mandatory shutdown.
6.67% of people who have contracted it have died. Not .0667%.
Not to mention more than half the cases there are still listed as "active". So 13.6% of resolved cases have been deaths. (Of course, the real number is likely much lower since Minnesota isn't doing a whole lot of testing.)
I realized after posting this at like 4am last night that I forgot to convert the math into correct percentages. That’s what happens when you post while being completely exhausted.
What's got you so worn out, J?
Three kids, having a sleepover last night, and some personal things going on. Couldn’t sleep last night. I was crazy tired, but didn’t sleep until around 5:30 this morning.
PHATJ wrote:95% of COVID-19 deaths in MN have been people aged 60 or older. 99% were 50 and older.
Less than 1% of the deaths have been people aged 50 or younger.
In Minnesota, 0.0667% of those that have contracted COVID-19 have died (343 out of 5,136 cases).
Minnesota has approximately 5.7 million people in 2020. That means 0.0009% of Minnesotans have contracted the virus (in other words, 99.9991% haven’t) and a minuscule 0.00006% of our population has died from COVID-19 (and 99.99994% haven’t died). And remember, as I stated before, the VAST majority of all COVID-19 deaths have stricken people that have major underlying contributing factors.
These are the facts. And numbers like these should not scare the average Joe and his family, and they definitely don’t warrant a continued state wide mandatory shutdown.
6.67% of people who have contracted it have died. Not .0667%.
Not to mention more than half the cases there are still listed as "active". So 13.6% of resolved cases have been deaths. (Of course, the real number is likely much lower since Minnesota isn't doing a whole lot of testing.)
I realized after posting this at like 4am last night that I forgot to convert the math into correct percentages. That’s what happens when you post while being completely exhausted.
What's got you so worn out, J?
Three kids, having a sleepover last night, and some personal things going on. Couldn’t sleep last night. I was crazy tired, but didn’t sleep until around 5:30 this morning.
Oh. Thought it may be like me, who's only had 2 days off all of April.
Let me tell you, Homer Simpson is cock of nothing!
- C. Montgomery Burns
PHATJ wrote:Btw, I appreciate that we are having a civilized conversation, verb. Thank you.
Hey Josh, just wanted to say that I appreciate civilized conversation too. Thanks for coming in with this attitude. And I totally get they way you're seeing things, and understand that it's not necessarily something that people who are healthy need to worry about. Just keep in mind that when you see people out and about who are wearing masks that you don't necessarily know their situation. Take me for example...45, healthy, low number of cases in my semi-rural area. However, my 84-year-old mom lives with us, and has COPD and other underlying conditions that would most likely make COVID a death sentence for her. I also work in senior living, and while thankfully the communities we manage haven't been hit hard, seeing news reports about dozens of seniors dying en masse in some of these places is heartbreaking. So, when I go out, I wear a mask just to err on the side of extreme caution. Everyone has their own situation.
PHATJ wrote:95% of COVID-19 deaths in MN have been people aged 60 or older. 99% were 50 and older.
Less than 1% of the deaths have been people aged 50 or younger.
In Minnesota, 0.0667% of those that have contracted COVID-19 have died (343 out of 5,136 cases).
Minnesota has approximately 5.7 million people in 2020. That means 0.0009% of Minnesotans have contracted the virus (in other words, 99.9991% haven’t) and a minuscule 0.00006% of our population has died from COVID-19 (and 99.99994% haven’t died). And remember, as I stated before, the VAST majority of all COVID-19 deaths have stricken people that have major underlying contributing factors.
These are the facts. And numbers like these should not scare the average Joe and his family, and they definitely don’t warrant a continued state wide mandatory shutdown.
6.67% of people who have contracted it have died. Not .0667%.
Not to mention more than half the cases there are still listed as "active". So 13.6% of resolved cases have been deaths. (Of course, the real number is likely much lower since Minnesota isn't doing a whole lot of testing.)
I realized after posting this at like 4am last night that I forgot to convert the math into correct percentages. That’s what happens when you post while being completely exhausted.
What's got you so worn out, J?
Three kids, having a sleepover last night, and some personal things going on. Couldn’t sleep last night. I was crazy tired, but didn’t sleep until around 5:30 this morning.
Oh. Thought it may be like me, who's only had 2 days off all of April.
Nope, it’s the opposite for me. I’m out of work. I’m collecting unemployment, but it’s barely scratching the surface of what my family actually needs. I have been working lots of unpaid hours helping our company figure out which employees we have to let go, and which we can afford to keep on for the time being. It’s sad and stressful to have to lay people off that have been good and loyal employees for many, many years. It weighs heavily on me and I don’t take it lightly. Plus, I have my own personal issues that I deal with on the regular, plus three kids (two teenagers). So anyway, I’m tired and stressed and have very strong personal reasons why I feel so strongly about getting people back on their feet as quickly as possible.
PHATJ wrote:Btw, I appreciate that we are having a civilized conversation, verb. Thank you.
Hey Josh, just wanted to say that I appreciate civilized conversation too. Thanks for coming in with this attitude. And I totally get they way you're seeing things, and understand that it's not necessarily something that people who are healthy need to worry about. Just keep in mind that when you see people out and about who are wearing masks that you don't necessarily know their situation. Take me for example...45, healthy, low number of cases in my semi-rural area. However, my 84-year-old mom lives with us, and has COPD and other underlying conditions that would most likely make COVID a death sentence for her. I also work in senior living, and while thankfully the communities we manage haven't been hit hard, seeing news reports about dozens of seniors dying en masse in some of these places is heartbreaking. So, when I go out, I wear a mask just to err on the side of extreme caution. Everyone has their own situation.
I do understand your situation, my family has similar responsibilities. My grandfather is 88, two years ago he had 3/4 of a lung removed due to cancer (he never smoked a day in his life), and recently found out that his cancer has returned. My mother spends a great deal of time as his caretaker, and COVID would be a terrible thing for him to get.
PHATJ wrote:95% of COVID-19 deaths in MN have been people aged 60 or older. 99% were 50 and older.
Less than 1% of the deaths have been people aged 50 or younger.
In Minnesota, 0.0667% of those that have contracted COVID-19 have died (343 out of 5,136 cases).
Minnesota has approximately 5.7 million people in 2020. That means 0.0009% of Minnesotans have contracted the virus (in other words, 99.9991% haven’t) and a minuscule 0.00006% of our population has died from COVID-19 (and 99.99994% haven’t died). And remember, as I stated before, the VAST majority of all COVID-19 deaths have stricken people that have major underlying contributing factors.
These are the facts. And numbers like these should not scare the average Joe and his family, and they definitely don’t warrant a continued state wide mandatory shutdown.
6.67% of people who have contracted it have died. Not .0667%.
Not to mention more than half the cases there are still listed as "active". So 13.6% of resolved cases have been deaths. (Of course, the real number is likely much lower since Minnesota isn't doing a whole lot of testing.)
I realized after posting this at like 4am last night that I forgot to convert the math into correct percentages. That’s what happens when you post while being completely exhausted.
What's got you so worn out, J?
Three kids, having a sleepover last night, and some personal things going on. Couldn’t sleep last night. I was crazy tired, but didn’t sleep until around 5:30 this morning.
Oh. Thought it may be like me, who's only had 2 days off all of April.
Nope, it’s the opposite for me. I’m out of work. I’m collecting unemployment, but it’s barely scratching the surface of what my family actually needs. I have been working lots of unpaid hours helping our company figure out which employees we have to let go, and which we can afford to keep on for the time being. It’s sad and stressful to have to lay people off that have been good and loyal employees for many, many years. It weighs heavily on me and I don’t take it lightly. Plus, I have my own personal issues that I deal with on the regular, plus three kids (two teenagers). So anyway, I’m tired and stressed and have very strong personal reasons why I feel so strongly about getting people back on their feet as quickly as possible.
Why are you doing all that for your company for free?
Let me tell you, Homer Simpson is cock of nothing!
- C. Montgomery Burns
