Red Mosquito

Yea but I really did !

I was the touring rhythm guitarist for Lagwagon for three months but it didn't coincide with Warped Tour

My band won some songwriting contest for Ernie ball. We got to play the local Ernie ball stage at the warped tour in St. Paul. Boy did we not belong. Hilarious to look back on. Oh well! I call it a successful career

tragabigzanda wrote:Warped Tour opening act

There is certainly something of this to the general production on the album, this kind of generic 'modern rock' sheen that I find really aesthetically distasteful.

Combined with the influence/contribution of "Watt" (and Klinghoffer to a lesser extent), I think they'd have to be the greatest set of songs Ed's ever written for this album to even remotely register for me; the end product is almost fatally compromised from the outset.

I think my ideal "Ed solo album" scenario would be him recording an album in a big old house somwhere with, I don't know, Mitchell Froom producing. No celebrity cameos, no additional songwriters. Just some good songs, naturally produced - a sense of time, space.

After Into the Wild, I think there was a pathway for Ed to build a career as a respected, mature songwriter - explore folk, blues, jazz, other more traditional musical forms - but I'm now pretty certain he just doesn't have it in him.

Birds in Hell wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Warped Tour opening act

There is certainly something of this to the general production on the album, this kind of generic 'modern rock' sheen that I find really aesthetically distasteful.

Combined with the influence/contribution of "Watt" (and Klinghoffer to a lesser extent), I think they'd have to be the greatest set of songs Ed's ever written for this album to even remotely register for me; the end product is almost fatally compromised from the outset.

I think my ideal "Ed solo album" scenario would be him recording an album in a big old house somwhere with, I don't know, Mitchell Froom producing. No celebrity cameos, no additional songwriters. Just some good songs, naturally produced - a sense of time, space.

After Into the Wild, I think there was a pathway for Ed to build a career as a respected, mature songwriter - explore folk, blues, jazz, other more traditional musical forms - but I'm now pretty certain he just doesn't have it in him.

It's taken me years to understand that Into the Wild has big early solo McCartney vibes. And I hear you on Mitchell Froom and no cameos; I think something like that could be super interesting.

Sorry Spenno but i cant quite get if you liked the album or not

Its still unclear to me

Ed’s still a young guy. I think he has a lot different styles in him. I’m hopeful one day he’ll throw a major curveball.

VinylGuy wrote:Sorry Spenno but i cant quite get if you liked the album or not

Its still unclear to me

Lol

Strat wrote:Ed’s still a young guy. I think he has a lot different styles in him. I’m hopeful one day he’ll throw a major curveball.

He's almost 60!

There's not enough time left, and I doubt he has either the ability or commitment to put in that kind of work anyway.

Just think about the volume and breadth of work completed by McCartney, Costello, Neil Finn, Neil Young etc by that age.

Birds in Hell wrote:After Into the Wild, I think there was a pathway for Ed to build a career as a respected, mature songwriter - explore folk, blues, jazz, other more traditional musical forms - but I'm now pretty certain he just doesn't have it in him.

I dont see any indicators that this is what he wants, though. He simply does not currently want what you want him to want.

In a little over a decade he’ll be approaching 70 (WTAF). Maybe you’ll get something like that then. I’d be surprised if you get it before.

McParadigm wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:After Into the Wild, I think there was a pathway for Ed to build a career as a respected, mature songwriter - explore folk, blues, jazz, other more traditional musical forms - but I'm now pretty certain he just doesn't have it in him.

I dont see any indicators that this is what he wants, though. He simply does not currently want what you want him to want.

No argument from me on that point.

mm but ed is a ....respected, mature songwriter...

Are you Dave A?

Birds in Hell wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Warped Tour opening act

There is certainly something of this to the general production on the album, this kind of generic 'modern rock' sheen that I find really aesthetically distasteful.

Combined with the influence/contribution of "Watt" (and Klinghoffer to a lesser extent), I think they'd have to be the greatest set of songs Ed's ever written for this album to even remotely register for me; the end product is almost fatally compromised from the outset.

I think my ideal "Ed solo album" scenario would be him recording an album in a big old house somwhere with, I don't know, Mitchell Froom producing. No celebrity cameos, no additional songwriters. Just some good songs, naturally produced - a sense of time, space.

After Into the Wild, I think there was a pathway for Ed to build a career as a respected, mature songwriter - explore folk, blues, jazz, other more traditional musical forms - but I'm now pretty certain he just doesn't have it in him.

There is a recording on the PJ20 soundtrack of Ed and Mike playing an impromptu version of "Let Me Sleep" on the steps of the Arena di Verona in 2006 -- it totally has a gritty field recording, 'Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk Music' vibe that really feels good. I've always thought "Yellow Moon" would sound great in this setting too -- pull some of that arena gloss off, dial back the shredding, and let some of the song's natural bluesy grit do its job.

I really dig Earthling and ultimately don't know that Eddie has enough of that "old, weird America" stuff in his DNA to make a career out of it, but there are definitely little moments where I think about that as an interesting road not taken.

Birds in Hell wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:After Into the Wild, I think there was a pathway for Ed to build a career as a respected, mature songwriter - explore folk, blues, jazz, other more traditional musical forms - but I'm now pretty certain he just doesn't have it in him.

I dont see any indicators that this is what he wants, though. He simply does not currently want what you want him to want.

No argument from me on that point.

he turned into triumphant rock dad, rather than introspective gravelly old man.

Kevin Davis wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Warped Tour opening act

There is certainly something of this to the general production on the album, this kind of generic 'modern rock' sheen that I find really aesthetically distasteful.

Combined with the influence/contribution of "Watt" (and Klinghoffer to a lesser extent), I think they'd have to be the greatest set of songs Ed's ever written for this album to even remotely register for me; the end product is almost fatally compromised from the outset.

I think my ideal "Ed solo album" scenario would be him recording an album in a big old house somwhere with, I don't know, Mitchell Froom producing. No celebrity cameos, no additional songwriters. Just some good songs, naturally produced - a sense of time, space.

After Into the Wild, I think there was a pathway for Ed to build a career as a respected, mature songwriter - explore folk, blues, jazz, other more traditional musical forms - but I'm now pretty certain he just doesn't have it in him.

There is a recording on the PJ20 soundtrack of Ed and Mike playing an impromptu version of "Let Me Sleep" on the steps of the Arena di Verona in 2006 -- it totally has a gritty field recording, 'Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk Music' vibe that really feels good. I've always thought "Yellow Moon" would sound great in this setting too -- pull some of that arena gloss off, dial back the shredding, and let some of the song's natural bluesy grit do its job.

I really dig Earthling and ultimately don't know that Eddie has enough of that "old, weird America" stuff in his DNA to make a career out of it, but there are definitely little moments where I think about that as an interesting road not taken.

flag day offers a taste

Playing this now (with some Flag Dag songs replacing the lesser Earthling songs)

Always happy to hear Ed's dad. Wish we got just a little more.

I just played Earthlings into Flag Day. good stuff

ill the do the same today

I'll be waiting is better than I credited it being in my Flag Day review


Earthlings works so well as a complete listen