Maybe they want the Treasury to just mint some trillion dollar coins. Legislating is too hard.
Can I short sell this? Are we going to band together and make some loot or what?? I'm trying to grapple with this newly exposed power of boards like ours. Also, I'm totally not a glowie, so you guys can tell me anything, truly...
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Sun January 31, 2021 12:36 am
by Norah
B wrote:Lawmakers push Biden to offer recurring $2,000 stimulus checks
Did you read the article or are you just reacting to a headline?
What does your heart tell you when you ask this question?
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Sun January 31, 2021 1:20 am
by B
I just reacted to the headline. This IS the Internet after all.
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Tue February 02, 2021 8:26 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Tue February 02, 2021 8:44 pm
by Simple Torture
tragabigzanda wrote:
Edit: Had to google it, but:
With majorities in the House and Senate, Democratic leaders may well use a special legislative process called “reconciliation” to quickly advance high-priority fiscal legislation. Created by the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, reconciliation allows for expedited consideration of certain tax, spending, and debt limit legislation. In the Senate, reconciliation bills aren’t subject to filibuster and the scope of amendments is limited, giving this process real advantages for enacting controversial budget and tax measures.
This is the same process the GOP tried to use to repeal the ACA, if you remember, which they weren't able to do after a few defections, including John McCain's:
The Dems have a 0% margin for error, but it appears they're united on this.
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Tue February 02, 2021 8:45 pm
by Mickey
Wait, is that--is that Joe Manchin's entrance music??
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Tue February 02, 2021 9:03 pm
by elliseamos
The house should put one budget bill together that encompasses everything Biden et al. campaigned on pass it in the senate with reconciliation and then sit around for 2 years.
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Tue February 02, 2021 9:09 pm
by Simple Torture
Mickey wrote:Wait, is that--is that Joe Manchin's entrance music??
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Tue February 02, 2021 9:51 pm
by spike
tragabigzanda wrote:
Edit: Had to google it, but:
With majorities in the House and Senate, Democratic leaders may well use a special legislative process called “reconciliation” to quickly advance high-priority fiscal legislation. Created by the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, reconciliation allows for expedited consideration of certain tax, spending, and debt limit legislation. In the Senate, reconciliation bills aren’t subject to filibuster and the scope of amendments is limited, giving this process real advantages for enacting controversial budget and tax measures.
With majorities in the House and Senate, Democratic leaders may well use a special legislative process called “reconciliation” to quickly advance high-priority fiscal legislation. Created by the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, reconciliation allows for expedited consideration of certain tax, spending, and debt limit legislation. In the Senate, reconciliation bills aren’t subject to filibuster and the scope of amendments is limited, giving this process real advantages for enacting controversial budget and tax measures.
yes but on the plus side we could use some new furniture
And this current crop of Republicans isn't going to budge for Biden, the division isn't going anywhere. Might as well get some shit done and tell 'em "sorry, elections have consequences."
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Tue February 02, 2021 10:19 pm
by elliseamos
Rob wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
spike wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Edit: Had to google it, but:
With majorities in the House and Senate, Democratic leaders may well use a special legislative process called “reconciliation” to quickly advance high-priority fiscal legislation. Created by the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, reconciliation allows for expedited consideration of certain tax, spending, and debt limit legislation. In the Senate, reconciliation bills aren’t subject to filibuster and the scope of amendments is limited, giving this process real advantages for enacting controversial budget and tax measures.
yes but on the plus side we could use some new furniture
And this current crop of Republicans isn't going to budge for Biden, the division isn't going anywhere. Might as well get some shit done and tell 'em "sorry, elections have consequences."
This is my feeling about things.
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Thu February 04, 2021 8:37 pm
by BurtReynolds
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Thu February 04, 2021 9:13 pm
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:
they're still trying to do a bipartisan bill, so this is pressure coming from the GOP. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number checks if they go the reconciliation route?
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Thu February 04, 2021 9:19 pm
by BurtReynolds
spike wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
they're still trying to do a bipartisan bill, so this is pressure coming from the GOP. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number checks if they go the reconciliation route?
What gave the democrats the idea that voters give a remote shit about bipartisanship or procedure, and why aren't they simply doing what they said they would do?
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Thu February 04, 2021 9:25 pm
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:
spike wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
they're still trying to do a bipartisan bill, so this is pressure coming from the GOP. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number checks if they go the reconciliation route?
What gave the democrats the idea that voters give a remote shit about bipartisanship or procedure, and why aren't they simply doing what they said they would do?
for better or worse, they're trying to agree on this bill so future legislation won't be fucked. but understanding the importance of the stimulus needed, they've lined up the reconciliation route as plan B. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number of checks if they go the reconciliation route?
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Thu February 04, 2021 9:36 pm
by BurtReynolds
spike wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
spike wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
they're still trying to do a bipartisan bill, so this is pressure coming from the GOP. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number checks if they go the reconciliation route?
What gave the democrats the idea that voters give a remote shit about bipartisanship or procedure, and why aren't they simply doing what they said they would do?
for better or worse, they're trying to agree on this bill so future legislation won't be fucked. but understanding the importance of the stimulus needed, they've lined up the reconciliation route as plan B. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number of checks if they go the reconciliation route?
Where are you getting this?
That doesn't even make sense as a strategy. What if republicans say yes to this? Are democrats going to go along with it? And if they say no, then dems will just do it their way instead? So this was all just theater?
There is absolutely no reason to consider the Republican position on this at all. You might have to accept the fact that dems just don't want to do it, and won't do it unless pushed.
Re: Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread
Posted: Thu February 04, 2021 10:09 pm
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:
spike wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
spike wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
they're still trying to do a bipartisan bill, so this is pressure coming from the GOP. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number checks if they go the reconciliation route?
What gave the democrats the idea that voters give a remote shit about bipartisanship or procedure, and why aren't they simply doing what they said they would do?
for better or worse, they're trying to agree on this bill so future legislation won't be fucked. but understanding the importance of the stimulus needed, they've lined up the reconciliation route as plan B. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number of checks if they go the reconciliation route?
Where are you getting this?
That doesn't even make sense as a strategy. What if republicans say yes to this? Are democrats going to go along with it? And if they say no, then dems will just do it their way instead? So this was all just theater?
There is absolutely no reason to consider the Republican position on this at all. You might have to accept the fact that dems just don't want to do it, and won't do it unless pushed.
i'm mostly spitballing - more fun than just regurgitating tweets all day homey - but here's an article.
It was part of a two-track strategy that Mr. Biden and Democrats are employing to speed through the relief package: Show Republicans that they have the votes to pass an ambitious plan with only Democratic backing, but offer to negotiate some details in hopes of gaining Republican support.
