Red Mosquito

i submit that mf doom = doom = king geedorah = viktor vaughn = daniel dumile

Stardog Champion wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Stardog Champion wrote:I'll open my list (and myself) up to ridicule. Here's what I submitted:

1 Pearl Jam
2 Prince
3 U2
4 Against Me!
5 Bruce Springsteen
6 The Replacements
7 The Clash
8 St. Vincent
9 Nine Inch Nails
10 Guns N Roses
11 Soundgarden
12 Queens of the Stone Age
13 Madonna
14 Sleater-Kinney
15 Florence + the Machine
16 Van Halen
17 Jack White
18 Dr. John
19 Radiohead
20 Yeah Yeah Yeahs

Baller list.

Thanks! I knew you'd appreciate the early St. Vincent mention.

You know it!

I also love that you have Madonna on there.

Radiohead, the Clash, Florence, and NIN were all considerations for me. Radiohead I'm sure would make my top 25 along with the other three I mentioned in a previous post.

I very purposefully did not include any 1990s rock bands on my list because either (1) I'm sure other people's votes are going to take care of them, like Pearl Jam, or (2) while they might be in my all-time top 20, they're not really in heavy rotation for me right now, which is how I decided to choose my artists.

I did include one artist whose been active since the '60s because he is in such heavy rotation--more or less daily.

There are two artists on my list who have only released 1 album and 1 EP each.

Only 3 artists on my list are dead. The other 17 are still active and making music.

Only 6 artists on my list are bands (and 1 of those 6 is often referred to by his name alone).

"Nick Cave" and "Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds" should be counted together. Fight me.

I think it's great that people have said "Jack White & White Stripes" but not "Jack White & White Stripes & The Raconteurs." And they've said "Nick Cave & Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds" but not " Nick Cave & Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds & Grinderman." It's good to know that you guys do have limits and aren't just trying to get something over on me

What about Queens of the Stoneage and Them crooked vultures?

I think NCBS and Grinderman are clearly different projects, while I think people who say "I love Nick Cave" are talking about NCBS 95% of the time.

Does the guy's name being in the band make a big difference here? If Pearl Jam wasn't called Pearl Jam but Eddie Vedder and the Jammers would we insist on counting Eddie solo stuff with the full band Eddie and the Jammers albums?

The Argonaut wrote:Does the guy's name being in the band make a big difference here? If Pearl Jam wasn't called Pearl Jam but Eddie Vedder and the Jammers would we insist on counting Eddie solo stuff with the full band Eddie and the Jammers albums?

This is an interesting question. And now that you've got me thinking about it, I might be able to change my mind and see things your way. I need to see a good argument on both sides.

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:Does the guy's name being in the band make a big difference here? If Pearl Jam wasn't called Pearl Jam but Eddie Vedder and the Jammers would we insist on counting Eddie solo stuff with the full band Eddie and the Jammers albums?

This is an interesting question. And now that you've got me thinking about it, I might be able to change my mind and see things your way. I need to see a good argument on both sides.

Do we separate the Tom Petty material from the Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers material?

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:Does the guy's name being in the band make a big difference here? If Pearl Jam wasn't called Pearl Jam but Eddie Vedder and the Jammers would we insist on counting Eddie solo stuff with the full band Eddie and the Jammers albums?

This is an interesting question. And now that you've got me thinking about it, I might be able to change my mind and see things your way. I need to see a good argument on both sides.

Do we separate the Tom Petty material from the Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers material?

That was the initial idea, yeah. That's one of the examples that sparked this debate. In the rules for this thread, Argo says they are separate. Ditto Bruce and Bruce + E-Street. There's also some debate has to whether or not Jack White should be an umbrella that covers all his work or if you can/should treat each as its own thing.

epilogue wrote:

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:Does the guy's name being in the band make a big difference here? If Pearl Jam wasn't called Pearl Jam but Eddie Vedder and the Jammers would we insist on counting Eddie solo stuff with the full band Eddie and the Jammers albums?

This is an interesting question. And now that you've got me thinking about it, I might be able to change my mind and see things your way. I need to see a good argument on both sides.

Do we separate the Tom Petty material from the Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers material?

That was the initial idea, yeah. That's one of the examples that sparked this debate. In the rules for this thread, Argo says they are separate. Ditto Bruce and Bruce + E-Street. There's also some debate has to whether or not Jack White should be an umbrella that covers all his work or if you can/should treat each as its own thing.

That’s a stupid idea. It should be inclusive if that artist writes all the material. Tom Petty pretty much did. At least all the lyrics so he had a hand in every original song he recorded. Same with Springsteen. If White wrote all the material, then his should be too.

I said I am open to debate!

JuanHamm wrote:What about Queens of the Stoneage and Them crooked vultures?

Trying to imagine putting either of these bands on your list, much less both of them.

Mickey wrote:

JuanHamm wrote:What about Queens of the Stoneage and Them crooked vultures?

Trying to imagine putting either of these bands on your list, much less both of them.

Don't hurt yourself

JuanHamm wrote:I put my top 25 bands into the ranker and this is what I came up with.


1 Queens of the Stoneage
2 Pearl Jam
3 Portugal. The Man
4 Interpol
5 Talking Heads
6 Soundgarden
7 Fleetwood Mac
8 Tame Impala
9 Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
10 Johnny Cash
11 The Sound
12 Television
13 Sleater Kinney
Townes Van Zandt
14 Alice in chains
15 Tom Petty
16 The Black Keys
17 Neil Young
18 David Bowie
19 Pink Floyd

Edited. Forgot Townes.

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:Does the guy's name being in the band make a big difference here? If Pearl Jam wasn't called Pearl Jam but Eddie Vedder and the Jammers would we insist on counting Eddie solo stuff with the full band Eddie and the Jammers albums?

This is an interesting question. And now that you've got me thinking about it, I might be able to change my mind and see things your way. I need to see a good argument on both sides.

Do we separate the Tom Petty material from the Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers material?

That was the initial idea, yeah. That's one of the examples that sparked this debate. In the rules for this thread, Argo says they are separate. Ditto Bruce and Bruce + E-Street. There's also some debate has to whether or not Jack White should be an umbrella that covers all his work or if you can/should treat each as its own thing.

That’s a stupid idea. It should be inclusive if that artist writes all the material. Tom Petty pretty much did. At least all the lyrics so he had a hand in every original song he recorded. Same with Springsteen. If White wrote all the material, then his should be too.

If I want to put Mudcrutch on my list do I have to include the bass player's side projects?

ghost wrote:

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:Does the guy's name being in the band make a big difference here? If Pearl Jam wasn't called Pearl Jam but Eddie Vedder and the Jammers would we insist on counting Eddie solo stuff with the full band Eddie and the Jammers albums?

This is an interesting question. And now that you've got me thinking about it, I might be able to change my mind and see things your way. I need to see a good argument on both sides.

Do we separate the Tom Petty material from the Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers material?

That was the initial idea, yeah. That's one of the examples that sparked this debate. In the rules for this thread, Argo says they are separate. Ditto Bruce and Bruce + E-Street. There's also some debate has to whether or not Jack White should be an umbrella that covers all his work or if you can/should treat each as its own thing.

That’s a stupid idea. It should be inclusive if that artist writes all the material. Tom Petty pretty much did. At least all the lyrics so he had a hand in every original song he recorded. Same with Springsteen. If White wrote all the material, then his should be too.

If I want to put Mudcrutch on my list do I have to include the bass player's side projects?

I appreciate the Pettyness of this post.

Might have to add Greg? Cartwright/Oblivians/Reigning Sound depending how this goes.