Red Mosquito

VinylGuy wrote:Not a fan of Dylan G love story.

I love it just as much as I love the Irving/Burt storyline. Which is a lot. Really thought provoking television but for different reasons.

zeb wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Not a fan of Dylan G love story.

I love it just as much as I love the Irving/Burt storyline. Which is a lot. Really thought provoking television but for different reasons.

The Irving/Burt storyline has a lot of mystery. Who the fuck is outtie Irving? Why is Burt helping him? is Burt severed at all? so many interesting questions there.

Really hoping that's not the last we see of Irving...

I think Stiller said something about it; and hinted that it was the last time “as for now” which cements my idea that these dudes doesn’t have a fucking clue about the whole thing

“As for now “


Fuck you Ben. Tells us how many more seasons we have of this thing

I think he said that because JT has expressed a desire to be done with the show. I think they did this as a way to write him off if they can't convince him to come back for S3.

Really?? That’s even worse !

I know!

If anything they did it in a very beautiful way that shows a reflection in both cinematography and in the dialogue of their innies meeting and discussing love.

And Radar came with him, too.

Turturro has had enough already? Bummer.

VinylGuy wrote:Fuck you Ben. Tells us how many more seasons we have of this thing

This is such a silly position to take, VG.

zeb wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Fuck you Ben. Tells us how many more seasons we have of this thing

This is such a silly position to take, VG.

Im mostly joking in all my posts.

zeb wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Not a fan of Dylan G love story.

I love it just as much as I love the Irving/Burt storyline. Which is a lot. Really thought provoking television but for different reasons.

Agreed. But I think it’s weird to frame it as a “love story.“

Dylan is our allegory for the guy who never liked himself until he found one job that he excels at. He disappeared into the comfort of being proud of himself for being good at something.

He is fascinated, from afar, by the idea of his children…but he doesn’t know them as people.

He craves affection and love, and he feels their absence…but he doesn’t know how to experience them.

Being good at his job is the only reward he really understands or feels comfortable with.

This show is a science fiction story about a group of characters who are severed from themselves, but it is talking about a society of people who are all severing from each other.

Ivan Ilyich dies very slowly. And his family abandons him to die alone, because being around him reminds them of their own mortality. They sever from him, in order to avoid the pain of being reminded that they are going to die someday. Their compassion is overruled by the fear of feeling sad.

VinylGuy wrote:

zeb wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Fuck you Ben. Tells us how many more seasons we have of this thing

This is such a silly position to take, VG.

Im mostly joking in all my posts.

McParadigm wrote:

zeb wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Not a fan of Dylan G love story.

I love it just as much as I love the Irving/Burt storyline. Which is a lot. Really thought provoking television but for different reasons.

Agreed. But I think it’s weird to frame it as a “love story.“

Dylan is our allegory for the guy who never liked himself until he found one job that he excels at. He disappeared into the comfort of being proud of himself for being good at something.

He is fascinated, from afar, by the idea of his children…but he doesn’t know them as people.

He craves affection and love, and he feels their absence…but he doesn’t know how to experience them.

Being good at his job is the only reward he really understands or feels comfortable with.

This show is a science fiction story about a group of characters who are severed from themselves, but it is talking about a society of people who are all severing from each other.

Ivan Ilyich dies very slowly. And his family abandons him to die alone, because being around him reminds them of their own mortality. They sever from him, in order to avoid the pain of being reminded that they are going to die someday. Their compassion is overruled by the fear of feeling sad.

An interesting take as always, McP.

I do see it as a love story, although through a science fiction lens. It's certainly a love story from the point of view of his wife and his innie.

Do you think that Gretchen cheated on outie Dylan by kissing innie Dylan?

zeb wrote:Do you think that Gretchen cheated on outie Dylan by kissing innie Dylan?

Yes, but only because in my philosophy courses I always argued in the thought experiment about an exact clone being the same/different person that they are only the same for only the exact moment the clone is created and then they become 2 separate people. (I know this is not the exact scenario in the show)

GOOD LORD!

Is it good, very good or extremely good, E9?

I won't be able to watch it for another eight hours (Friday here, still at work, going to a concert tonight).

zeb wrote:Is it good, very good or extremely good, E9?

It’s either the best or the worst episode of the series. Either way, it was delightfully bonkers.