Red Mosquito

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Man that bart guy is a jerk!

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:Finally saw this at the theater (not on 70mm), and now finally caught up on this thread going back to whenever the movie came out.

I absolutely loved it. I’ve always found Nolan to be hot/cold, and considered the smaller intimacy of Memento to be my easy favorite (just haven’t seen Interstellar). I found this to be significantly better than that.

Biggest accolades go to Murphy, and to the editor. This thing is a locomotive from the first frame, but never once did I lose track of the plot, the science, the political backdrop.

I find Argo’s issue with the third act focus on Strauss really odd, because for me it seemed like the perfect way to illustrate that while Oppenheimer was quite egotistical earlier in his career, and more so when he’s in full control of Los Alamos, he was never what I would consider a careerist; and by the end he’s rendered basically impotent by the ego of Strauss’s purely careerist goals. For two men concerned with legacy, only Strauss puts his regard by the political elite at the center of that legacy, while Oppenheimer is more concerned with the legacy of his actions, and the subsequent actions that will follow his work as the US enters the arms race. The line “maybe they were talking about something more important” sums that contrast up really nicely, and anyway it’s impactful watching Oppenheimer move like a raw nerve for two hours through history-making events, only to be glued to a chair in a tiny room in the final stretch.

I do agree with Argo that his wife’s role is given a disproportionate amount of emotional heft relative to Blunt’s screen time. I think another 10 minutes or so of fleshing her out could have added a richer dimension to the story.

I’ve been pretty vocal in my disdain of the general overuse of manipulative score, and have specifically echoed the popular sentiment that Nolan’s audio mixing is a frequent issue, but I thought this sounded amazing, top to bottom. So much drama in the dynamics of the sound.

I don’t see the acting of RDJ that epilogue does, but I get where he’s coming from and appreciate the comparison to me with music. But I found Rami Malek’s casting to be clunky, because even I can see him working in this. Damon did better but it’s Matt Damon and it’s hard to forget that; ditto Casey Affleck.

I also said to my wife that it reminded me a lot of JFK, so I was glad to see that comment from VG.

I don’t get why people are upset about the sex scene. Of course Oppenheimer didn’t read the Bhagavad Vita while banging, but so what, this is a big movie and that was a fun way to foreshadow the dark nature of their attraction to each other.

I’m sure I can find other things to nitpick or argue about but why bother. My knowledge of Oppenheimer prior to this was very general (brilliant physicist, pioneered the Manhattan Project, almost immediately regretted it, his descendants are wealthy). This gave me a ton of personal background on the man, illustrated his use of quantum physics in a way I could understand, made good use of dialogue and plotting to place it all within proper historical context, and threw so much fun and compelling movie making at me that I’d have to be an asshole to say “not good enough.”

Outstanding movie. I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t win for actor, director, editor, screenplay, sound design, and mixing.

tragabigzanda wrote:Listening to The Big Picture and they had an insight I thought I was sharp: David Krumholz provides much of the heart and soul of this movie because he grants Oppenheimer a humanity that he otherwise doesn’t receive (and maybe doesn’t warrant).

Farmer John wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Finally saw this at the theater (not on 70mm), and now finally caught up on this thread going back to whenever the movie came out.

I absolutely loved it. I’ve always found Nolan to be hot/cold, and considered the smaller intimacy of Memento to be my easy favorite (just haven’t seen Interstellar). I found this to be significantly better than that.

Biggest accolades go to Murphy, and to the editor. This thing is a locomotive from the first frame, but never once did I lose track of the plot, the science, the political backdrop.

I find Argo’s issue with the third act focus on Strauss really odd, because for me it seemed like the perfect way to illustrate that while Oppenheimer was quite egotistical earlier in his career, and more so when he’s in full control of Los Alamos, he was never what I would consider a careerist; and by the end he’s rendered basically impotent by the ego of Strauss’s purely careerist goals. For two men concerned with legacy, only Strauss puts his regard by the political elite at the center of that legacy, while Oppenheimer is more concerned with the legacy of his actions, and the subsequent actions that will follow his work as the US enters the arms race. The line “maybe they were talking about something more important” sums that contrast up really nicely, and anyway it’s impactful watching Oppenheimer move like a raw nerve for two hours through history-making events, only to be glued to a chair in a tiny room in the final stretch.

I do agree with Argo that his wife’s role is given a disproportionate amount of emotional heft relative to Blunt’s screen time. I think another 10 minutes or so of fleshing her out could have added a richer dimension to the story.

I’ve been pretty vocal in my disdain of the general overuse of manipulative score, and have specifically echoed the popular sentiment that Nolan’s audio mixing is a frequent issue, but I thought this sounded amazing, top to bottom. So much drama in the dynamics of the sound.

I don’t see the acting of RDJ that epilogue does, but I get where he’s coming from and appreciate the comparison to me with music. But I found Rami Malek’s casting to be clunky, because even I can see him working in this. Damon did better but it’s Matt Damon and it’s hard to forget that; ditto Casey Affleck.

I also said to my wife that it reminded me a lot of JFK, so I was glad to see that comment from VG.

I don’t get why people are upset about the sex scene. Of course Oppenheimer didn’t read the Bhagavad Vita while banging, but so what, this is a big movie and that was a fun way to foreshadow the dark nature of their attraction to each other.

I’m sure I can find other things to nitpick or argue about but why bother. My knowledge of Oppenheimer prior to this was very general (brilliant physicist, pioneered the Manhattan Project, almost immediately regretted it, his descendants are wealthy). This gave me a ton of personal background on the man, illustrated his use of quantum physics in a way I could understand, made good use of dialogue and plotting to place it all within proper historical context, and threw so much fun and compelling movie making at me that I’d have to be an asshole to say “not good enough.”

Outstanding movie. I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t win for actor, director, editor, screenplay, sound design, and mixing.

Just saw the movie and loved it and I agree with pretty much all of this.

I didn't find it too loud and/or unintelligible, either, and I'm normally the first to complain about that. I also saw it on a regular non-IMAX screen, so maybe they really crank that shit for the IMAX.

Stickman wrote:Finally saw this in 70mm. Seems damn near every one that was in a previous Nolan movie showed up here.

One thing I thought I saw; was Pugh's character murdered or did she off herself as Opi was meant to believe? I believe I saw a hand on her head whilst underwater.

tree_ wrote:dang guys spoill that shit!

tree_ wrote:i'm actually really smart, unlike how you say i'm an idiot

tommy wrote:

tree_ wrote:i'm actually really smart, unlike how you say i'm an idiot

I used to think you were smart, but now I have some serious doubts.

tree_ wrote:dang guys spoill that shit!

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

tree_ wrote:dang guys spoill that shit!

Lol. It has been like two months since it has been out. No spoilers needed.

tree_ wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

tree_ wrote:dang guys spoill that shit!

Lol. It has been like two months since it has been out. No spoilers needed.

i ain't got no time to be driving 3 hours round trip to go and watch no 3 hour movie! i got 2 young kids!

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

tree_ wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

tree_ wrote:dang guys spoill that shit!

Lol. It has been like two months since it has been out. No spoilers needed.

i ain't got no time to be driving 3 hours round trip to go and watch no 3 hour movie! i got 2 young kids!

That's fine, but you shouldn't expect to go into a movie thread two months after release and have everyone that has seen it using spoilers. Lol tree.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

tree_ wrote:dang guys spoill that shit!

Lol. It has been like two months since it has been out. No spoilers needed.