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Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 6:06 pm
by Jaeti
Hear, hear!

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 6:07 pm
by Ms Harmless
thanks dudes!

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 6:10 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 6:15 pm
by Ms Harmless
Something Special, or, "Please Call Me Daughter"

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 6:18 pm
by Buby
Ms Harmless wrote:Something Special, or, "Please Call Me Daughter"
:nice:

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 6:30 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Ms Harmless wrote:
one thing I've been doing for years is referring to Pearl Jam as "my Grunge dads" as a joke; they have no idea who I am, but they've been speaking to me, shaping my morality, my politics, my talents, my tastes, and my choices during some of the best and worst times of my life, *all* of my life
I think a lot of us here can relate to this. Thanks for posting your experience with the song.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 6:36 pm
by Ms Harmless
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
one thing I've been doing for years is referring to Pearl Jam as "my Grunge dads" as a joke; they have no idea who I am, but they've been speaking to me, shaping my morality, my politics, my talents, my tastes, and my choices during some of the best and worst times of my life, *all* of my life
I think a lot of us here can relate to this. Thanks for posting your experience with the song.
:)

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 7:08 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Ms Harmless wrote:OK so...

in the run up to Dark Matter, when we first saw the track list and started hearing stories and background on the songs, I was sure that it was going to be "Waiting For Stevie" -- about a woman (according to Ed) at a concert, who has always been able to escape her pain through music -- that captured me emotionally, hook line and sinker, as someone who has been with this band all of my music-listening life (I was 9 in 1991), and grown to realise I was a woman; but I was wrong

turns out that WFS doesn't go into all that potential depth, it's a bit vaguer, which is fine

since we heard the metal door and official clips of "Something Special", I knew this would be a song I could get behind and on the favourable end of the "schmaltzy songs about Ed's family" spectrum, but I didn't expect a song about *Ed's own daughters* to be the one that hit me in that deep way; I just expected it to be cute, in a good way

that is until yesterday, when I started listening and singing along, and I began crying; I knew immediately why

over the last 10 years I've had a bit of a rocky time with my family, and my parents, accepting me fully as a trans woman, a sister, and a daughter; without going too far into that and making myself completely vulnerable, I don’t expect ever to hear my parents call me their daughter without some hesitation; I've accepted that, come to terms, what have you, and learned to take the good of our relationship while we're all still around; but, suddenly listening to this song from a doting father speaking wisdom / prayer / prophecy of protection almost, over his daughter, it suddenly moved me to tears knowing that I had never experienced that in my past, but that right here, in this moment, I was experiencing a version of that right now, because Ed has always been there and his lyrics were crucial to my development, and here he was, letting me "fly the nest", and saying "before you go, here is a little emotional closure that you maybe didn't even know you needed"

one thing I've been doing for years is referring to Pearl Jam as "my Grunge dads" as a joke; they have no idea who I am, but they've been speaking to me, shaping my morality, my politics, my talents, my tastes, and my choices during some of the best and worst times of my life, *all* of my life

and in that moment, the realisation that Ed, the same force that once scrawled "PRO-CHOICE" on his arm when I was a wide-eyed kid with no idea that some choices would even be possible for me, was still here, and telling me "out of everyone, you're not just anyone; you're the one and only you... we've done all we can do"

and after I was done crying, there was a contentment that washed over me about that
This is beautiful, daunting, and touching. Thank you for sharing this.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 7:17 pm
by Strat
Ms Harmless wrote:OK so...

in the run up to Dark Matter, when we first saw the track list and started hearing stories and background on the songs, I was sure that it was going to be "Waiting For Stevie" -- about a woman (according to Ed) at a concert, who has always been able to escape her pain through music -- that captured me emotionally, hook line and sinker, as someone who has been with this band all of my music-listening life (I was 9 in 1991), and grown to realise I was a woman; but I was wrong

turns out that WFS doesn't go into all that potential depth, it's a bit vaguer, which is fine

since we heard the metal door and official clips of "Something Special", I knew this would be a song I could get behind and on the favourable end of the "schmaltzy songs about Ed's family" spectrum, but I didn't expect a song about *Ed's own daughters* to be the one that hit me in that deep way; I just expected it to be cute, in a good way

that is until yesterday, when I started listening and singing along, and I began crying; I knew immediately why

over the last 10 years I've had a bit of a rocky time with my family, and my parents, accepting me fully as a trans woman, a sister, and a daughter; without going too far into that and making myself completely vulnerable, I don’t expect ever to hear my parents call me their daughter without some hesitation; I've accepted that, come to terms, what have you, and learned to take the good of our relationship while we're all still around; but, suddenly listening to this song from a doting father speaking wisdom / prayer / prophecy of protection almost, over his daughter, it suddenly moved me to tears knowing that I had never experienced that in my past, but that right here, in this moment, I was experiencing a version of that right now, because Ed has always been there and his lyrics were crucial to my development, and here he was, letting me "fly the nest", and saying "before you go, here is a little emotional closure that you maybe didn't even know you needed"

one thing I've been doing for years is referring to Pearl Jam as "my Grunge dads" as a joke; they have no idea who I am, but they've been speaking to me, shaping my morality, my politics, my talents, my tastes, and my choices during some of the best and worst times of my life, *all* of my life

and in that moment, the realisation that Ed, the same force that once scrawled "PRO-CHOICE" on his arm when I was a wide-eyed kid with no idea that some choices would even be possible for me, was still here, and telling me "out of everyone, you're not just anyone; you're the one and only you... we've done all we can do"

and after I was done crying, there was a contentment that washed over me about that
:luv: :heartbeat:

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 7:17 pm
by Ms Harmless
you're welcome Ruddo

daunting? that intrigues me, I'd love to hear more about that if you want to divulge

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 7:18 pm
by Ms Harmless
oh, and Strat!

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 7:22 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Ms Harmless wrote:you're welcome Ruddo

daunting? that intrigues me, I'd love to hear more about that if you want to divulge
Maybe just overwhelming would be better? This line: "I don’t expect ever to hear my parents call me their daughter without some hesitation; I've accepted that, come to terms, what have you" just pulled at my heartstrings. I can't imagine how you feel. Just thinking about that makes me feel overwhelmed, I admire your ability to even talk about it.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 7:24 pm
by stip
I missed that post initially Mrs. Harmless. That's extraordinarily powerful. I'm so glad you had that experience

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 7:26 pm
by Ms Harmless
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:you're welcome Ruddo

daunting? that intrigues me, I'd love to hear more about that if you want to divulge
Maybe just overwhelming would be better? This line: "I don’t expect ever to hear my parents call me their daughter without some hesitation; I've accepted that, come to terms, what have you" just pulled at my heartstrings. I can't imagine how you feel. Just thinking about that makes me feel overwhelmed, I admire your ability to even talk about it.
that means a lot to me - I like to think that talking about it might mean that someone may hear it who needed to hear it, as cliché as that sounds; I didn't get to read about that experience when I was young, and I can't relive my life over again, but I can be a light for someone else coming up in their own life :)

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 7:28 pm
by Ms Harmless
stip wrote:I missed that post initially Mrs. Harmless. That's extraordinarily powerful. I'm so glad you had that experience
thank you good sir, and for helping those of us be a little less ashamed of appreciating the schmaltz; that's an important public service

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 8:58 pm
by guitar_davey
Ms Harmless wrote:OK so...

in the run up to Dark Matter, when we first saw the track list and started hearing stories and background on the songs, I was sure that it was going to be "Waiting For Stevie" -- about a woman (according to Ed) at a concert, who has always been able to escape her pain through music -- that captured me emotionally, hook line and sinker, as someone who has been with this band all of my music-listening life (I was 9 in 1991), and grown to realise I was a woman; but I was wrong

turns out that WFS doesn't go into all that potential depth, it's a bit vaguer, which is fine

since we heard the metal door and official clips of "Something Special", I knew this would be a song I could get behind and on the favourable end of the "schmaltzy songs about Ed's family" spectrum, but I didn't expect a song about *Ed's own daughters* to be the one that hit me in that deep way; I just expected it to be cute, in a good way

that is until yesterday, when I started listening and singing along, and I began crying; I knew immediately why

over the last 10 years I've had a bit of a rocky time with my family, and my parents, accepting me fully as a trans woman, a sister, and a daughter; without going too far into that and making myself completely vulnerable, I don’t expect ever to hear my parents call me their daughter without some hesitation; I've accepted that, come to terms, what have you, and learned to take the good of our relationship while we're all still around; but, suddenly listening to this song from a doting father speaking wisdom / prayer / prophecy of protection almost, over his daughter, it suddenly moved me to tears knowing that I had never experienced that in my past, but that right here, in this moment, I was experiencing a version of that right now, because Ed has always been there and his lyrics were crucial to my development, and here he was, letting me "fly the nest", and saying "before you go, here is a little emotional closure that you maybe didn't even know you needed"

one thing I've been doing for years is referring to Pearl Jam as "my Grunge dads" as a joke; they have no idea who I am, but they've been speaking to me, shaping my morality, my politics, my talents, my tastes, and my choices during some of the best and worst times of my life, *all* of my life

and in that moment, the realisation that Ed, the same force that once scrawled "PRO-CHOICE" on his arm when I was a wide-eyed kid with no idea that some choices would even be possible for me, was still here, and telling me "out of everyone, you're not just anyone; you're the one and only you... we've done all we can do"

and after I was done crying, there was a contentment that washed over me about that
As others have already said, Ms H, this is a beautiful post.

Please know that you have many allies in this PJ community. :heartbeat: :peace:

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 9:02 pm
by Ms Harmless
guitar_davey wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:OK so...

in the run up to Dark Matter, when we first saw the track list and started hearing stories and background on the songs, I was sure that it was going to be "Waiting For Stevie" -- about a woman (according to Ed) at a concert, who has always been able to escape her pain through music -- that captured me emotionally, hook line and sinker, as someone who has been with this band all of my music-listening life (I was 9 in 1991), and grown to realise I was a woman; but I was wrong

turns out that WFS doesn't go into all that potential depth, it's a bit vaguer, which is fine

since we heard the metal door and official clips of "Something Special", I knew this would be a song I could get behind and on the favourable end of the "schmaltzy songs about Ed's family" spectrum, but I didn't expect a song about *Ed's own daughters* to be the one that hit me in that deep way; I just expected it to be cute, in a good way

that is until yesterday, when I started listening and singing along, and I began crying; I knew immediately why

over the last 10 years I've had a bit of a rocky time with my family, and my parents, accepting me fully as a trans woman, a sister, and a daughter; without going too far into that and making myself completely vulnerable, I don’t expect ever to hear my parents call me their daughter without some hesitation; I've accepted that, come to terms, what have you, and learned to take the good of our relationship while we're all still around; but, suddenly listening to this song from a doting father speaking wisdom / prayer / prophecy of protection almost, over his daughter, it suddenly moved me to tears knowing that I had never experienced that in my past, but that right here, in this moment, I was experiencing a version of that right now, because Ed has always been there and his lyrics were crucial to my development, and here he was, letting me "fly the nest", and saying "before you go, here is a little emotional closure that you maybe didn't even know you needed"

one thing I've been doing for years is referring to Pearl Jam as "my Grunge dads" as a joke; they have no idea who I am, but they've been speaking to me, shaping my morality, my politics, my talents, my tastes, and my choices during some of the best and worst times of my life, *all* of my life

and in that moment, the realisation that Ed, the same force that once scrawled "PRO-CHOICE" on his arm when I was a wide-eyed kid with no idea that some choices would even be possible for me, was still here, and telling me "out of everyone, you're not just anyone; you're the one and only you... we've done all we can do"

and after I was done crying, there was a contentment that washed over me about that
As others have already said, Ms H, this is a beautiful post.

Please know that you have many allies in this PJ community. :heartbeat: :peace:
thank you, davey

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 9:20 pm
by blueviper
Ms Harmless wrote:Something Special, or, "Please Call Me Daughter"
whoa...

nice

Re: Something Special

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 9:21 pm
by blueviper
Ms Harmless wrote:OK so...

in the run up to Dark Matter, when we first saw the track list and started hearing stories and background on the songs, I was sure that it was going to be "Waiting For Stevie" -- about a woman (according to Ed) at a concert, who has always been able to escape her pain through music -- that captured me emotionally, hook line and sinker, as someone who has been with this band all of my music-listening life (I was 9 in 1991), and grown to realise I was a woman; but I was wrong

turns out that WFS doesn't go into all that potential depth, it's a bit vaguer, which is fine

since we heard the metal door and official clips of "Something Special", I knew this would be a song I could get behind and on the favourable end of the "schmaltzy songs about Ed's family" spectrum, but I didn't expect a song about *Ed's own daughters* to be the one that hit me in that deep way; I just expected it to be cute, in a good way

that is until yesterday, when I started listening and singing along, and I began crying; I knew immediately why

over the last 10 years I've had a bit of a rocky time with my family, and my parents, accepting me fully as a trans woman, a sister, and a daughter; without going too far into that and making myself completely vulnerable, I don’t expect ever to hear my parents call me their daughter without some hesitation; I've accepted that, come to terms, what have you, and learned to take the good of our relationship while we're all still around; but, suddenly listening to this song from a doting father speaking wisdom / prayer / prophecy of protection almost, over his daughter, it suddenly moved me to tears knowing that I had never experienced that in my past, but that right here, in this moment, I was experiencing a version of that right now, because Ed has always been there and his lyrics were crucial to my development, and here he was, letting me "fly the nest", and saying "before you go, here is a little emotional closure that you maybe didn't even know you needed"

one thing I've been doing for years is referring to Pearl Jam as "my Grunge dads" as a joke; they have no idea who I am, but they've been speaking to me, shaping my morality, my politics, my talents, my tastes, and my choices during some of the best and worst times of my life, *all* of my life

and in that moment, the realisation that Ed, the same force that once scrawled "PRO-CHOICE" on his arm when I was a wide-eyed kid with no idea that some choices would even be possible for me, was still here, and telling me "out of everyone, you're not just anyone; you're the one and only you... we've done all we can do"

and after I was done crying, there was a contentment that washed over me about that
This was nice. It's cool that PJ can help you process some of the things going on inside and you feel comfortable enough with this group at RM to express those feelings.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 30, 2024 12:24 am
by guitar_davey
tragabigzanda wrote:There's a breezy joy that the band brings to this track (and wait until you hear the remaster!) that I've recently connected with, and that is largely absent from the rest of their discography. But ms H's more personal connection is really great, it reframes the sentiment of the song beyond "Ed's got kids now."
Best trag post. :peace:

This song would have worked great in that Benaroya Hall set.