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On the otherhand, Stone is awesome in the NFY from Worcester 2. Nice Nirvana quote in there

WtOB? wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

WtOB? wrote:man, im listening to baltimore right now and it really sucks.

In what ways does it suck? I haven't listened to any shows yet.

eddie's shakin and squeakin all over the place. even from the start on pendulum he's very shaky. waiting for the man is good though.

Fuck, Baltimore really does suck. There are a few gems tucked away like "I'm Waiting For My Man" and "Man Of The Hour", but outside of that, this is a terrible boot. Do not buy unless you were there and just want to have it. Or you are one of those people who buy all the shows.

Ed's voice is a fucking joke at this show. It's gravelly, it's shaky, and it's squeaky. His voice also sounds thin and airy. What happened to that beautiful baritone? It's amazing how much worse he sounds compared to the awesomeness of the 2003 Japan Compilation. That is seriously some of the best PJ I've ever heard, and Baltimore just may be the worst boot I've ever heard. Blah.

Back to Ed's voice, seriously, it just pisses me off at this point. "The" sounds like "Dwa". "Up" sounds like "Wup". Mind Your Manners is a disaster live. Jesus, Ed just can't pull that song off.

Based on the Baltimore boot, I will not be buying any more, and hopefully spenno puts together a kick ass compilation that helps redeem my faith in this band.

i agree with every word. if i were jeff, i would have "stormed" off stage too if i had to hear that shit in my ear monitors. no wonder he ripped em out and threw em on the ground.

I didn't even mention Lukin. Holy fuck that song is terrible. They just need to permanently shelf this one, unless the do the slow variation. I love the No Code track, but live, especially now, just may be the worst song Pearl Jam does. It is unlistenable.

darth_vedder wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

WtOB? wrote:man, im listening to baltimore right now and it really sucks.

In what ways does it suck? I haven't listened to any shows yet.

eddie's shakin and squeakin all over the place. even from the start on pendulum he's very shaky. waiting for the man is good though.

Fuck, Baltimore really does suck. There are a few gems tucked away like "I'm Waiting For My Man" and "Man Of The Hour", but outside of that, this is a terrible boot. Do not buy unless you were there and just want to have it. Or you are one of those people who buy all the shows.

Ed's voice is a fucking joke at this show. It's gravelly, it's shaky, and it's squeaky. His voice also sounds thin and airy. What happened to that beautiful baritone? It's amazing how much worse he sounds compared to the awesomeness of the 2003 Japan Compilation. That is seriously some of the best PJ I've ever heard, and Baltimore just may be the worst boot I've ever heard. Blah.

Back to Ed's voice, seriously, it just pisses me off at this point. "The" sounds like "Dwa". "Up" sounds like "Wup". Mind Your Manners is a disaster live. Jesus, Ed just can't pull that song off.

Based on the Baltimore boot, I will not be buying any more, and hopefully spenno puts together a kick ass compilation that helps redeem my faith in this band.

i agree with every word. if i were jeff, i would have "stormed" off stage too if i had to hear that shit in my ear monitors. no wonder he ripped em out and threw em on the ground.

I didn't even mention Lukin. Holy fuck that song is terrible. They just need to permanently shelf this one, unless the do the slow variation. I love the No Code track, but live, especially now, just may be the worst song Pearl Jam does. It is unlistenable.

It is a very unpleasant number...even the band its just strumming along without trying.

opsopcopolis wrote:On the otherhand, Stone is awesome in the NFY from Worcester 2. Nice Nirvana quote in there

whats the quote?

VinylGuy wrote:

opsopcopolis wrote:On the otherhand, Stone is awesome in the NFY from Worcester 2. Nice Nirvana quote in there

whats the quote?

"pearl jam sucks, ive always hated their music"

darth_vedder wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

WtOB? wrote:man, im listening to baltimore right now and it really sucks.

In what ways does it suck? I haven't listened to any shows yet.

eddie's shakin and squeakin all over the place. even from the start on pendulum he's very shaky. waiting for the man is good though.

Fuck, Baltimore really does suck. There are a few gems tucked away like "I'm Waiting For My Man" and "Man Of The Hour", but outside of that, this is a terrible boot. Do not buy unless you were there and just want to have it. Or you are one of those people who buy all the shows.

Ed's voice is a fucking joke at this show. It's gravelly, it's shaky, and it's squeaky. His voice also sounds thin and airy. What happened to that beautiful baritone? It's amazing how much worse he sounds compared to the awesomeness of the 2003 Japan Compilation. That is seriously some of the best PJ I've ever heard, and Baltimore just may be the worst boot I've ever heard. Blah.

Back to Ed's voice, seriously, it just pisses me off at this point. "The" sounds like "Dwa". "Up" sounds like "Wup". Mind Your Manners is a disaster live. Jesus, Ed just can't pull that song off.

Based on the Baltimore boot, I will not be buying any more, and hopefully spenno puts together a kick ass compilation that helps redeem my faith in this band.

i agree with every word. if i were jeff, i would have "stormed" off stage too if i had to hear that shit in my ear monitors. no wonder he ripped em out and threw em on the ground.

I didn't even mention Lukin. Holy fuck that song is terrible. They just need to permanently shelf this one, unless the do the slow variation. I love the No Code track, but live, especially now, just may be the worst song Pearl Jam does. It is unlistenable.

Yeah, no, Baltimore was a great show, and listening to the bootleg in the car surprised me at how much fun it was. I'd forgotten how good it was. Solid set, solid gig, solid jams. Oh no, Eddie Vedder can't sing anymore like he did in 1994!! Come on, get over it.

opsopcopolis wrote:On the otherhand, Stone is awesome in the NFY from Worcester 2. Nice Nirvana quote in there

the show wasnt bad, Eddie was just struggling. He went crazy the night before I pretty much expected it.

Will wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

WtOB? wrote:man, im listening to baltimore right now and it really sucks.

In what ways does it suck? I haven't listened to any shows yet.

eddie's shakin and squeakin all over the place. even from the start on pendulum he's very shaky. waiting for the man is good though.

Fuck, Baltimore really does suck. There are a few gems tucked away like "I'm Waiting For My Man" and "Man Of The Hour", but outside of that, this is a terrible boot. Do not buy unless you were there and just want to have it. Or you are one of those people who buy all the shows.

Ed's voice is a fucking joke at this show. It's gravelly, it's shaky, and it's squeaky. His voice also sounds thin and airy. What happened to that beautiful baritone? It's amazing how much worse he sounds compared to the awesomeness of the 2003 Japan Compilation. That is seriously some of the best PJ I've ever heard, and Baltimore just may be the worst boot I've ever heard. Blah.

Back to Ed's voice, seriously, it just pisses me off at this point. "The" sounds like "Dwa". "Up" sounds like "Wup". Mind Your Manners is a disaster live. Jesus, Ed just can't pull that song off.

Based on the Baltimore boot, I will not be buying any more, and hopefully spenno puts together a kick ass compilation that helps redeem my faith in this band.

i agree with every word. if i were jeff, i would have "stormed" off stage too if i had to hear that shit in my ear monitors. no wonder he ripped em out and threw em on the ground.

I didn't even mention Lukin. Holy fuck that song is terrible. They just need to permanently shelf this one, unless the do the slow variation. I love the No Code track, but live, especially now, just may be the worst song Pearl Jam does. It is unlistenable.

Yeah, no, Baltimore was a great show, and listening to the bootleg in the car surprised me at how much fun it was. I'd forgotten how good it was. Solid set, solid gig, solid jams. Oh no, Eddie Vedder can't sing anymore like he did in 1994!! Come on, get over it.

it's not that at all. it's that eddie can't sing full stop, at least at this particular show. and he opts to sing parts out of his range when he doesn't need to. for example, there's that part of DTE that goes "i crawled the earth.. but now i'm.. haa*squeak*." now, if he just sang that normally instead of trying to do it higher like that it would be fine, but for some reason he tries it like that every time and never ever succeeds. it's a fucking squeak every time. it's shit like that that he can totally help that pisses me off the most.

darth_vedder wrote:Back to Ed's voice, seriously, it just pisses me off at this point. "The" sounds like "Dwa". "Up" sounds like "Wup".

This is basically just how Eddie Vedder sounds now. It's not a case of good shows or bad shows, that's just his voice. His old voice is more or less gone - he's the "heeee" and "wup" guy now.

AndySlash wrote:lukin is comical because he can't sing it AND can't remember the words so he just AHSABADA JABADADDA HAVAMATTA DOSONATTA's most of the song.

WtOB? wrote:

Will wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

WtOB? wrote:man, im listening to baltimore right now and it really sucks.

In what ways does it suck? I haven't listened to any shows yet.

eddie's shakin and squeakin all over the place. even from the start on pendulum he's very shaky. waiting for the man is good though.

Fuck, Baltimore really does suck. There are a few gems tucked away like "I'm Waiting For My Man" and "Man Of The Hour", but outside of that, this is a terrible boot. Do not buy unless you were there and just want to have it. Or you are one of those people who buy all the shows.

Ed's voice is a fucking joke at this show. It's gravelly, it's shaky, and it's squeaky. His voice also sounds thin and airy. What happened to that beautiful baritone? It's amazing how much worse he sounds compared to the awesomeness of the 2003 Japan Compilation. That is seriously some of the best PJ I've ever heard, and Baltimore just may be the worst boot I've ever heard. Blah.

Back to Ed's voice, seriously, it just pisses me off at this point. "The" sounds like "Dwa". "Up" sounds like "Wup". Mind Your Manners is a disaster live. Jesus, Ed just can't pull that song off.

Based on the Baltimore boot, I will not be buying any more, and hopefully spenno puts together a kick ass compilation that helps redeem my faith in this band.

i agree with every word. if i were jeff, i would have "stormed" off stage too if i had to hear that shit in my ear monitors. no wonder he ripped em out and threw em on the ground.

I didn't even mention Lukin. Holy fuck that song is terrible. They just need to permanently shelf this one, unless the do the slow variation. I love the No Code track, but live, especially now, just may be the worst song Pearl Jam does. It is unlistenable.

Yeah, no, Baltimore was a great show, and listening to the bootleg in the car surprised me at how much fun it was. I'd forgotten how good it was. Solid set, solid gig, solid jams. Oh no, Eddie Vedder can't sing anymore like he did in 1994!! Come on, get over it.

it's not that at all. it's that eddie can't sing full stop, at least at this particular show. and he opts to sing parts out of his range when he doesn't need to. for example, there's that part of DTE that goes "i crawled the earth.. but now i'm.. haa*squeak*." now, if he just sang that normally instead of trying to do it higher like that it would be fine, but for some reason he tries it like that every time and never ever succeeds. it's a fucking squeak every time. it's shit like that that he can totally help that pisses me off the most.

I actually really love the squeak on that line. Sounds cool to me. I assumed it was intentional like the ones in Wash.

lowlight79 wrote:the problem with Ed's voice is that he needs like 10-15 shows before it warms up and they just don't do long tours anymore. Which has made his chick squeak sound worse as he gets older. I really hate the squeak on wash at the end, it drives me nuts.

Really? I don't like when he tries to hit notes he can't, but some of these squeaks people are complaining about sound great. The end of Wash from Brooklyn 2 was about as good as I've heard Eddie sound all tour, he sounded amazing, honestly better than the studio version for me personally

lowlight79 wrote:I gotta be honest, I just finished brooklyn 2, and I compare it to looking up a hot hooker on backpage and getting there and realizing that she bait and switched you. Everyone on the pit was saying how good it is, it's ok. Not great.

I think that the problem is that a lot of what made the night so great was the crowd, and it's hard to hear them on it. That said some were really great like Present Tense and Wash regardless.

mikejasond wrote:I think that the problem is that a lot of what made the night so great was the crowd, and it's hard to hear them on it.

Don't all crowds pretty much sound the same on recordings?

Birds in Hell wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:Back to Ed's voice, seriously, it just pisses me off at this point. "The" sounds like "Dwa". "Up" sounds like "Wup".

This is basically just how Eddie Vedder sounds now. It's not a case of good shows or bad shows, that's just his voice. His old voice is more or less gone - he's the "heeee" and "wup" guy now.

Yeah, but to follow up a bit of what WtOB was saying, it's the way he chooses to sing. Like he does not need to sing the start of In My Tree like "Wup here...". Why can't he just sing "Up here..."? Or Wishlist, why is it "dwa Christmas tree...", not "the Christmas tree..."? These are things Ed does not have to do but for whatever reason, he is choosing to sing this way. For me, it borderline ruins the songs.

They should also drop songs like MYM, Got Some, and Lukin from the setlist. Ed just can't pull those off, and the songs pretty much always sound terrible live.

Going back and listening to the older boots, Ed didn't seem to try so hard. I don't know how to explain it but his delivery was more reserved in a way, maybe that's not the right way to explain it. Like he didn't try to add all these accents and stuff, he just sang. It's like he's really trying to do something now that his voice just isn't capable of. It's not a matter of me "getting over it", it's that Ed seems to be choosing to sing a certain way now, and for me it just doesn't fit with the music as it once did. I really have no idea how to explain this...I wish I could articulate it like KD could.

I want to be clear though, this doesn't mean I hate Pearl Jam, I just don't like the way they sound live these days (primarily Ed). I'm one of the guys who likes Sirens for crying out loud. Also, I had a good time at the Baltimore show, but that could have been the shrooms.

VinylGuy wrote:

opsopcopolis wrote:On the otherhand, Stone is awesome in the NFY from Worcester 2. Nice Nirvana quote in there

whats the quote?

The vocal melody from Come as You Are. In the ending solo

Also after re-listening to Brooklyn 2 I think it had an amazing setlist, but I would cut Down, Unthought Known, and then one of Infallible, In Hiding, or Hail Hail.

I dunno, it just seemed to drag at points, though it picked up a ton of steam in the second half. The first half feels a bit too dense.

warehouse wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

opsopcopolis wrote:On the otherhand, Stone is awesome in the NFY from Worcester 2. Nice Nirvana quote in there

whats the quote?

"pearl jam sucks, ive always hated their music"

Kevin Davis wrote:

mikejasond wrote:I think that the problem is that a lot of what made the night so great was the crowd, and it's hard to hear them on it.

Don't all crowds pretty much sound the same on recordings?

There seems to be a lot of variability in how the crowd sounds on recent boots. If they're mixed just right, you can definitely feel the vibe going on in the room translate onto the recording.

Has anyone noticed that the crowd sometimes sounds like it was recorded as a really low bitrate mp3? All glitchy and artifact-y?...

I heard Hard to Imagine from Baltimore on the radio the other day. Didn't sound half bad.

super nintendo chalmers wrote:I heard Hard to Imagine from Baltimore on the radio the other day. Didn't sound half bad.

its the only solid performance on the whole boot.