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VinylGuy wrote:

red calzolaio wrote:never have heard of any of these movies you guys speak of.

theplatypus wrote:

dkfan9 wrote:Can someone defend Mulholland Drive?

It's in my top 10 all-time favorites and my #1 favorite Lynch movie. This is what I had to say about it earlier.

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Maybe it is for the two main girls, but for Adam, or the Cowboy and co? Significant time is devoted to that whole conspiracy, and then it's abandoned after the box is opened. There are some really good scenes in the movie, with almost no bearing on the plot (Silencio. Oh god I love that scene. The cops in the diner and the man out back). The man out back is a pretty underwhelming supernatural force. Nothing really changes if you take him out. There's too much crammed into the movie, and too little of it is explored. Now, all of this makes sense after reading that Lynch planned this for a TV series, and when rejected by TV wrote an ending. A lot of interesting stuff is going on in the movie, and with extra time for exploration I think it could've been outstanding.

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"Maybe it is for the two main girls" is really the key to all that. I question your interpretation of the plot if you think there's much of a diegetic throughline outside of what happens to those two girls, especially within the mind of Naomi Watts's character. Think of those half-plots, when they were abandoned, and what was the plot point that severed them. And YMMV on whether it's disorienting or scary: I find it to be one of the most thrillingly disconcerting movies I've ever seen, and I find parts of it to be disquieting and deeply disturbing.

Strat wrote:Platy - what are your "guilty pleasure" movies? Any moves that most movie buffs and hipsters would fucking tear you apart for liking...but you just cant help enjoy?

Bring it.

Like - Scary Movie 3? Clueless? Thrasher? Rad?

theplatypus wrote:

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"Maybe it is for the two main girls" is really the key to all that. I question your interpretation of the plot if you think there's much of a diegetic throughline outside of what happens to those two girls, especially within the mind of Naomi Watts's character. Think of those half-plots, when they were abandoned, and what was the plot point that severed them. And YMMV on whether it's disorienting or scary: I find it to be one of the most thrillingly disconcerting movies I've ever seen, and I find parts of it to be disquieting and deeply disturbing.

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I think I'd agree with the bold, if we're thinking along the same lines. But that's one of my issues with the movie: there's one plot that's actually followed through on. But there's a whole bunch of unnecessary stuff, a lot of time dedicated to stuff with no real effect on the plot, and even where there is an effect (for instance, the director gets divorced, which leads to him and Camilla), the main plot would be unaffected with major alterations to this side plot (you could make any of a million reasons for the director and the actress--he never has to be married in the first place), but the side plot is given substantial time and focus, for a short period--it's made to look important on its own, and then is discarded. The sinister cabal insists on the director casting that girl. But the director's selection of that girl has nothing to do with Naomi Watts' character leaving the rehearsal. If that cabal actress plotline weren't there, that scene could play exactly the same role in relation to the main plot. These plotlines connect, but they might as well be independent--and independent stories deserve follow through, most of the time (of course, it depends on the role they play).

Strat wrote:Platy - what are your "guilty pleasure" movies? Any moves that most movie buffs and hipsters would fucking tear you apart for liking...but you just cant help enjoy?

Bring it.

Like - Scary Movie 3? Clueless? Thrasher? Rad?

turned2black wrote:Just now hearing about this Evil Dead remake. One of the things that made the original so great was its "low budget-ness," so I'm skeptical of an update. Also, Cabin in The Woods just did this genre/theme so well, that I'm afraid any kind of knowing nods to genre stereotypes or even to the original film will not be as clever and seem stale. But this was my least favorite of the Evil Dead movies, so I guess if they had to remake one them, I'm glad it was this one.

nah wrote:who here has seen 'lucas'

EJ wrote:

nah wrote:who here has seen 'lucas'

nah wrote:who here has seen 'lucas'

nah wrote:

EJ wrote:

nah wrote:who here has seen 'lucas'

we are now friends for life. if you ever need anything let me know. i use 'throw the ball to lucas' cryptically a few times a year. i wish I could work it in as much as i do gary buseys memorable line 'utah, get me two' from point break but that's life

nah wrote:who here has seen 'lucas'

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

nah wrote:who here has seen 'lucas'

great movie, it was on one of those random direct tv channels 5 or 6 months ago which let me relive its glory. i need to find that one on dvd

Strat wrote: Like - Scary Movie 3? Clueless? Thrasher? Rad?