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Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed November 15, 2023 11:28 pm
by Vitalogist
Can we all at least agree that they’re both better than Deep?

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed November 15, 2023 11:33 pm
by Leatherhead
Vitalogist wrote:Can we all at least agree that they’re both better than Deep?

Absolutely not.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed November 15, 2023 11:42 pm
by epilogue
Leatherhead wrote:Vitalogist wrote:Can we all at least agree that they’re both better than Deep?

Absolutely not.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed November 15, 2023 11:50 pm
by Farmer John
Birds in Hell wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Vitalogist wrote:Breath and SOLAT are definitely A+ songs.
Breath, yes. SOLAT is a B-
Wrong way round.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed November 15, 2023 11:59 pm
by Vitalogist
epilogue wrote:Leatherhead wrote:Vitalogist wrote:Can we all at least agree that they’re both better than Deep?

Absolutely not.
Wow… I’m surprised to see so much Deep appreciation. I’ve never appreciated that one. Might be the true weak spot on Ten.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 12:04 am
by epilogue
Deep is one of my favs on the record!
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 12:39 am
by Leatherhead
epilogue wrote:Deep is one of my favs on the record!
Serious.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 12:50 am
by epilogue
Leatherhead wrote:epilogue wrote:Deep is one of my favs on the record!
Serious.
I mean, it's no Even Flow
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 12:50 am
by Jaeti
Birds in Hell wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Vitalogist wrote:Breath and SOLAT are definitely A+ songs.
Breath, yes. SOLAT is a B-
Wrong way round.
I think they're both As, but yeah, if one is better than the other, it's SOLAT.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 1:02 am
by Jorge
I always saw those two songs as the band taking all the things about their Ten era sound that were good, maximizing it, and stripping away all the corny shit
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 1:19 am
by Birds in Hell
Jorge wrote:I always saw those two songs as the band taking all the things about their Ten era sound that were good, maximizing it, and stripping away all the corny shit
Breath is pretty corny.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 1:21 am
by stip
pearl jam has always been sentimental and optimistic and open hearted even in most of their darkest moments. its really a question of how much they’re trying to hide it
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 1:32 am
by Farmer John
Guys, stip is right
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 1:33 am
by Matters
SOLAT deserves respect but for me Breath>>>>>SOLAT. Not close. Breath top 1/3, SOLAT is bottom 1/3 in the catalog.
I’m not big on Deep but it belongs on Ten. It’s an important part of the album.
I love the production on Ten and I agree they made excellent choices as to what made it on the album.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 1:45 am
by Leatherhead
Deep and Garden are the best 2 songs on Ten.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 1:55 am
by Matters
Garden is so good. I never get tired of it. Really fun to play Stone’s finger picking.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 2:34 am
by Happy Trees
Matters wrote:Breath>>>>>SOLAT. Not close. Breath top 1/3, SOLAT is bottom 1/3 in the catalog.
How about no.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 2:42 am
by wease
Breath
What is… a song Pearl Jam never played live while Jack Irons was in the band?
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 3:41 am
by epilogue
Leatherhead wrote:Deep and Garden are the best 2 songs on Ten.
Respect
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 3:52 pm
by liebzz
2 cents:
Penny #1 - Deep and Garden are probably my least favorite songs on Ten, but agree that they belong there in an album that comes from a dark place both personally and how that darkness colors that perspective on society (Even Flow, Why Go, Jeremy, and Porch also speak to this, so they are a perfect fit I think both lyrically and sonically).
Penny #2 - Breath and SOLAT are both Pearl Jam all-timers. Breath for some reason feels to me like something pre-Ten that bridges the sonic gap between Mother Love Bone and Pearl Jam while SOLAT seems like a natural step forward in vibe towards the sounds they would capture on Vs.