Red Mosquito

THIS is how you open a fucking show:

Fuck I miss that band!

I was at this show, it was the first time I'd ever heard Gov't Mule. TBC played mostly covers, opening with Jailhouse Rock, and also did an incredible version of Dreams with Warren Haynes. Not sure if this was the night at the Joint I famously yelled "Hey Johnny, nice axe!" when he brought out a worn vintage P-Bass, and he clearly thought I said "Nice ass."

The Brothers were always assholes...they never really tried to hide it...they've always thought the band was all about them, and while it was their songs, without Ed, Marc, Johnny/Sven and Steve, those songs wouldn't have come anywhere fucking close to hitting the heights they did. Anyone who doubts that can go listen to Wiser Time or Descending with Ed, and then listen to either of those two songs with that dipshit Oven Mitts. Or go listen to a 2005 show with Bill Dubrow on drums with Chris screaming at him throughout the show.

Luther was fine but I wasn't wild about him on the older stuff. A lot of the "spin" he tried to put on songs (Wiser Time again) just didn't work (and that's being kind). He found his place after a couple of years with a lot of songs but it never quite hit the same heights.

Never cared for Jackie, but I also haven't listened to much of anything from 2013. Just zero interest and the setlists that year don't help either.

The band I fell in love with is dead. It died when Ed did. I have zero interest in seeing Chris, Rich and a bunch of hired guns play the hits (which is what Live Nation is paying for). By all means, if someone does, more power to them. Hope they have a good time. But it won't be the badass band I and many others became obsessed with.

From late 1992 through September of 1997, they were unfuckingstoppable. The videos above posted by others is proof enough of that. The 2020 version will be lucky to match the 2013 version.

I didn't know Neal Casal had been tapped to join the band at some point after that first break up. He probably would have killed himself sooner if he had to play with those guys.

do we know who any of the hired guns are supposed to be for this tour?

evenslow wrote:do we know who any of the hired guns are supposed to be for this tour?

there's been mixed reports that Adam may be back on keys...other than that, nothing has come out

MattA75 wrote:

evenslow wrote:do we know who any of the hired guns are supposed to be for this tour?

there's been mixed reports that Adam may be back on keys...other than that, nothing has come out

I think Mike McCready is relatively free.

Jonathan Wilson just abruptly cancelled a European/UK tour and promised to share news soon...this has set the Crowes online world aflame with thoughts that he's in

I know nothing about the dude, but based on what I read...that guy doesn't seem like a SYMM era Crowes guy/fit but weirder things have happened

oasisfan35 wrote:

MattA75 wrote:

evenslow wrote:do we know who any of the hired guns are supposed to be for this tour?

there's been mixed reports that Adam may be back on keys...other than that, nothing has come out

I think Mike McCready is relatively free.

that might be the one guy where Audley would be considered a better fit for TBC

MattA75 wrote:Jonathan Wilson just abruptly cancelled a European/UK tour and promised to share news soon...this has set the Crowes online world aflame with thoughts that he's in

I know nothing about the dude, but based on what I read...that guy doesn't seem like a SYMM era Crowes guy/fit but weirder things have happened

yea. hard pass

Went back and read some interviews with Rich and Marc from when TMS started, and it all reads like such a bunch of bullshit now. Rich's part anyway.

Sven and Marc were in the Crowes, Sven was in the Crowes without Marc, Joe played percussion with the Crowes and was in my solo band. John was with me in Hookah Brown, and Matt was in my solo band. These are the people I musically connected with the most in each configuration I’ve played in over the last 28 years, and it was interesting to see how quickly and thoroughly we all gelled. I believe these are the finest musicians of all those years and bands.

It’s just the interplay; the way he (Ford) rhythmically plays with me and intertwines with what I’m doing is just impossible to replicate. The two of us just have this thing that I can’t really describe, but it works so well with what I’m doing and how I write. We step off of what the other is playing, and it’s endlessly inspiring. Marc is such a brilliant player that, to me, it’s almost like when I was up there playing with Jimmy Page.

It’s wonderful, now, to be out of that band’s negativity — to remove the negative filter, my brother, and to be in a positive setting, exploring our musical and personal relationships. Marc and I came into this band in a very open way, just allowing each other to be ourselves. It makes all the difference in the world and we’re really just getting to know each other now.

There was a lot of negativity coming my way from Chris, and I think it kind of colored everyone in that position, including Marc. I’m quiet, Chris is loud and he painted a picture of who he thinks I am, because he has no idea who I am and never did. He likes to paint an unflattering, uncool portrait of me because he wants all of the attention and credit. You can see it now. All last year, he talked about how I’m in a cover band, then he goes out and puts together a cover band [As the Crow Flies]. It’s just funny. I think he thought he knew more about me than he did and never bothered to ask. He just made a lot of assumptions, and that’s the way it was. But it is what it is, I’m fine with it. I’m happier now, being in this band, than I ever was. This is so much more rewarding. No one wants to go down that negative road. I just want to get out and play.

But yeah, you know, that negative road must seem OK as long as Jonathan Wilson (whoever the fuck that is) is playing guitar and the cash is flowing. So quick to abandon TMS...I just don't get it.

He's doing it for the money. Gorman's book made it seem like he really likes to spend.

meatwad wrote:But yeah, you know, that negative road must seem OK as long as Jonathan Wilson (whoever the fuck that is) is playing guitar and the cash is flowing. So quick to abandon TMS...I just don't get it.

verb_to_trust wrote:He's doing it for the money. Gorman's book made it seem like he really likes to spend.

Not all addicts, even rock star addicts, are dependent on drugs and alcohol.

meatwad wrote:Went back and read some interviews with Rich and Marc from when TMS started, and it all reads like such a bunch of bullshit now. Rich's part anyway.

Sven and Marc were in the Crowes, Sven was in the Crowes without Marc, Joe played percussion with the Crowes and was in my solo band. John was with me in Hookah Brown, and Matt was in my solo band. These are the people I musically connected with the most in each configuration I’ve played in over the last 28 years, and it was interesting to see how quickly and thoroughly we all gelled. I believe these are the finest musicians of all those years and bands.

It’s just the interplay; the way he (Ford) rhythmically plays with me and intertwines with what I’m doing is just impossible to replicate. The two of us just have this thing that I can’t really describe, but it works so well with what I’m doing and how I write. We step off of what the other is playing, and it’s endlessly inspiring. Marc is such a brilliant player that, to me, it’s almost like when I was up there playing with Jimmy Page.

It’s wonderful, now, to be out of that band’s negativity — to remove the negative filter, my brother, and to be in a positive setting, exploring our musical and personal relationships. Marc and I came into this band in a very open way, just allowing each other to be ourselves. It makes all the difference in the world and we’re really just getting to know each other now.

There was a lot of negativity coming my way from Chris, and I think it kind of colored everyone in that position, including Marc. I’m quiet, Chris is loud and he painted a picture of who he thinks I am, because he has no idea who I am and never did. He likes to paint an unflattering, uncool portrait of me because he wants all of the attention and credit. You can see it now. All last year, he talked about how I’m in a cover band, then he goes out and puts together a cover band [As the Crow Flies]. It’s just funny. I think he thought he knew more about me than he did and never bothered to ask. He just made a lot of assumptions, and that’s the way it was. But it is what it is, I’m fine with it. I’m happier now, being in this band, than I ever was. This is so much more rewarding. No one wants to go down that negative road. I just want to get out and play.

But yeah, you know, that negative road must seem OK as long as Jonathan Wilson (whoever the fuck that is) is playing guitar and the cash is flowing. So quick to abandon TMS...I just don't get it.

Based on little things, I think him and Ford may still be ok...I think his relationship with Hogg is probably done...Not sure about Joe, Matt or Sven...

Yeah, I think Marc’s lack of interest in continuing long tours was the tipping point, though TMS would’ve needed an influx of dough to keep going.

I’ve heard no Chris or Rich guys in the lineup.

Supposedly Shane Theriot signed on but maybe he was part of the group that supposedly walked out of rehearsals when Gorman of all people was rumored to return.

People are going to complain about no Marc jut there are quite a few guys out there right now that can fit the bill. I was hoping for Marcus King to jump over from his ATCF duties.

I hope people go to the shows and boo them.

Strat wrote:I hope people go to the shows and boo them.

fat chance...it'll be 80% casual fans happy to hear the SYMM songs and the other familiar songs on a summer night while having a few $14 beers (probably on a co-headline bill with some other band where they can sing along to the songs they know), and 20% diehards who are going just because it's Chris and Rich and just want to hear those songs played by both of them together again

Gorman is in the band DNA. Highly highly doubt they're going to find a groove worth a shit.

evenslow wrote:Gorman is in the band DNA. Highly highly doubt they're going to find a groove worth a shit.

So you're saying there's a place in the band fro Matt?