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Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 1:41 am
by spike
macphisto wrote:spike wrote:guys, giving everyone guns totally works. look how peaceful inner city neighborhoods are.
Super problematic post. Yikes!
please feel free to elaborate, and don’t forget the subtle racism!
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 2:16 am
by macphisto
I think you’ve got that more than covered, my guy, and bordering on overt. Yikes!
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 4:40 am
by simple schoolboy
It was beyond the pale to donate to a legal fund for a case that probably should have never gone to trial.
Unfortunately for donors, the earlier 'official' fund was absconded with by Lin Wood, but thats Rittenhouse's mom's fault.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 6:42 am
by Bammer
There’s a thousand murder trials going on every day - why do people care so much about this one?
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 6:49 am
by Jorge
Bammer wrote:There’s a thousand murder trials going on every day - why do people care so much about this one?
I'll tell you
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 1:43 pm
by Bi_3
NYT: Hey NPR, hold my beer
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 1:56 pm
by Bammer
Jorge wrote:Bammer wrote:There’s a thousand murder trials going on every day - why do people care so much about this one?
I'll tell you
I’m serious. The fixation on this particular case. Why?
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 2:01 pm
by Peeps
i wonder if this is true
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 2:10 pm
by Bi_3
Peeps wrote:i wonder if this is true
If you are willing to watch, there is video of the judge explaining this decision.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 2:25 pm
by Peeps
Bi_3 wrote:Peeps wrote:i wonder if this is true
If you are willing to watch, there is video of the judge explaining this decision.
to me the judge seems a bit "off"
i meant more that there is video of him saying it
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 3:02 pm
by Bammer
Peeps wrote:Bi_3 wrote:Peeps wrote:i wonder if this is true
If you are willing to watch, there is video of the judge explaining this decision.
to me the judge seems a bit "off"
i meant more that there is video of him saying it
Like … senile? Or like … doesn’t share your exact worldview?
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 3:28 pm
by simple schoolboy
Bi_3 wrote:NYT: Hey NPR, hold my beer
Are they betting that relatively few people will spend 10 minutes watching the videos in question? Very little of this was unclear the day after it happened.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 3:44 pm
by McParadigm
Bammer wrote:Like … senile? Or like … doesn’t share your exact worldview?
Generally speaking, if you feel like you can read the judge’s worldview enough from his conduct during this trial to suspect that opposing worldviews is Peeps’s issue, that’s subpar.
Worldview aside, he said that magnifying an image is “adding data” to it and therefore unreliable, so that’s pretty weird for a person regularly presiding over criminal trials.
Personally, my experience with judges is that a large percentage of them are absolute geezer morons with a clear preferential lean in many trials, so his stupidity seems like a rather ordinary display of a broader, possibly national problem….not something unique to Rittenhouse.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 3:46 pm
by Bammer
McParadigm wrote:Bammer wrote:Like … senile? Or like … doesn’t share your exact worldview?
Generally speaking, if you feel like you can read the judge’s worldview enough from his conduct during this trial to suspect that opposing worldviews is Peeps’s issue, that’s subpar.
Worldview aside, he said that magnifying an image is “adding data” to it and therefore unreliable, so that’s pretty weird for a person regularly presiding over criminal trials.
Personally, my experience with judges is that a large percentage of them are absolute geezer morons with a clear preferential lean in many trials, so his stupidity seems like a rather ordinary display of a broader, possibly national problem….not something unique to Rittenhouse.
Agreed. They should be like referees in a football game. You shouldn’t be able to detect bias, and if you feel like you can, then yeah, that’s a problem.
That said, detecting bias can kinda depend what side you’re on. Can’t it?
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 3:49 pm
by Peeps
his ringtone (first off who still has their phones on in a courtroom?)
the whole yelling over minor shit seems a bit troubling
i dont care if he agrees with my world view or not but he should not being doing so many things that are outside the normals of justice
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 3:51 pm
by Bammer
Peeps wrote:his ringtone (first off who still has their phones on in a courtroom?)
the whole yelling over minor shit seems a bit troubling
i dont care if he agrees with my world view or not but he should not being doing so many things that are outside the normals of justice
Well I was at work so I’m not watching
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 4:12 pm
by dimejinky99
It’s being reported over here that the judge is openly biased as fuck and possibly unhinged.
For whatever that’s worth.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 4:33 pm
by Bi_3
Bammer wrote:Peeps wrote:his ringtone (first off who still has their phones on in a courtroom?)
the whole yelling over minor shit seems a bit troubling
i dont care if he agrees with my world view or not but he should not being doing so many things that are outside the normals of justice
Well I was at work so I’m not watching
He was yelling at the prosecutor, without the jury out the room, for trying to introduce evidence he had already ruled inadmissible and that was a violation of rittenhouse's 5th amendment rights. Twice. It appeared the prosecutor was trying to induce a mistrial several times on Tuesday so it's kinda understandable the judge was getting erratic. The videos of the ADA talking back to the judge are pretty insane for a literally deadly serious matter.
But it's also pretty clear he's being set up as the scapegoat in the media, rather than reporters making any serious attempt to understand what the law is and recognize... and people may want to sit down for this... the prosecution has to prove guilt, the defense doesn't have to prove innocence. The burden is entirely on the state and there's a reason the DA passed on the case.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 4:34 pm
by dimejinky99
Completely normal trial judge
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 4:46 pm
by Bi_3
dimejinky99 wrote:Completely normal trial judge
This
is normal behavior in many government scenarios. We had a moment of silence for vets this morning and the federal government is on holiday today.