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BigRedLedbetter and Pablo Sandoval: A Case

@SkitchP wrote:BigRedLedbetter and Pablo Sandoval: A Case

Haha I guess. Maybe I like him more than I should? Who knows.

Torii Hunter is worse than Pablo, btw

@SkitchP wrote:Torii Hunter is worse than Pablo, btw

I know you are a hater. I think he'd be an upgrade in RF over anything we have internally right now. We have a kid name Smolinski in our org but he is a 4th OF I think. Maybe Choice turns the corner? I hope so but who knows. We have a couple kids (Williams and Brinson) who are probably not going to be ready until 2016-2017. I'm all for Hunter on a 1 year deal. Obviously nothing crazy.

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Torii Hunter is worse than Pablo, btw

I know you are a hater. I think he'd be an upgrade in RF over anything we have internally right now. We have a kid name Smolinski in our org but he is a 4th OF I think. Maybe Choice turns the corner? I hope so but who knows. We have a couple kids (Williams and Brinson) who are probably not going to be ready until 2016-2017. I'm all for Hunter on a 1 year deal. Obviously nothing crazy.

Torii Hunter was probably the worst defensive RF in the major league this season. And that is not hyperbole.

Okay, looked it up. 2nd worst.

@SkitchP wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Torii Hunter is worse than Pablo, btw

I know you are a hater. I think he'd be an upgrade in RF over anything we have internally right now. We have a kid name Smolinski in our org but he is a 4th OF I think. Maybe Choice turns the corner? I hope so but who knows. We have a couple kids (Williams and Brinson) who are probably not going to be ready until 2016-2017. I'm all for Hunter on a 1 year deal. Obviously nothing crazy.

Torii Hunter was probably the worst defensive RF in the major league this season. And that is not hyperbole.

Okay, looked it up. 2nd worst.

I'm not saying he is great. Even good. Upgrade over Choice/Smolinski/Jim Adduci for 2015? Yes. I'm really hoping the light comes on with Michael Choice. I think highly of him but he was very overwhelmed last year. I really like Smolinski but not sure he is ready for 500 PAs in the majors.

Don't like the fancy new fangled WAR for defense?

He had the second worst fielding percentage- and was .001 from the bottom over.... Alex Rios. He was flat out BAD out there. Not a "better than the number show" bad,or a "going to get better" bad. It was an abortion to watch him play defense.

@SkitchP wrote:Don't like the fancy new fangled WAR for defense?

He had the second worst fielding percentage- and was .001 from the bottom over.... Alex Rios. He was flat out BAD out there. Not a "better than the number show" bad,or a "going to get better" bad. It was an abortion to watch him play defense.

I have not dissected it I guess.

I can't stand Rios. Glad he won't be back.

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Don't like the fancy new fangled WAR for defense?

He had the second worst fielding percentage- and was .001 from the bottom over.... Alex Rios. He was flat out BAD out there. Not a "better than the number show" bad,or a "going to get better" bad. It was an abortion to watch him play defense.

I have not dissected it I guess.

I can't stand Rios. Glad he won't be back.

He's basically a younger Torii Hunter at this point. Watching Torii day in and day out on defense the past 2 years has been painful.

@SkitchP wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Don't like the fancy new fangled WAR for defense?

He had the second worst fielding percentage- and was .001 from the bottom over.... Alex Rios. He was flat out BAD out there. Not a "better than the number show" bad,or a "going to get better" bad. It was an abortion to watch him play defense.

I have not dissected it I guess.

I can't stand Rios. Glad he won't be back.

He's basically a younger Torii Hunter at this point. Watching Torii day in and day out on defense the past 2 years has been painful.

Rios would cost a lot more money. Probably.

@SkitchP wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Don't like the fancy new fangled WAR for defense?

He had the second worst fielding percentage- and was .001 from the bottom over.... Alex Rios. He was flat out BAD out there. Not a "better than the number show" bad,or a "going to get better" bad. It was an abortion to watch him play defense.

I have not dissected it I guess.

I can't stand Rios. Glad he won't be back.

He's basically a younger Torii Hunter at this point. Watching Torii day in and day out on defense the past 2 years has been painful.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Don't like the fancy new fangled WAR for defense?

He had the second worst fielding percentage- and was .001 from the bottom over.... Alex Rios. He was flat out BAD out there. Not a "better than the number show" bad,or a "going to get better" bad. It was an abortion to watch him play defense.

I have not dissected it I guess.

I can't stand Rios. Glad he won't be back.

He's basically a younger Torii Hunter at this point. Watching Torii day in and day out on defense the past 2 years has been painful.

I was basically begging for that.


and a decent OF would have had that.

@SkitchP wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Don't like the fancy new fangled WAR for defense?

He had the second worst fielding percentage- and was .001 from the bottom over.... Alex Rios. He was flat out BAD out there. Not a "better than the number show" bad,or a "going to get better" bad. It was an abortion to watch him play defense.

I have not dissected it I guess.

I can't stand Rios. Glad he won't be back.

He's basically a younger Torii Hunter at this point. Watching Torii day in and day out on defense the past 2 years has been painful.

I was basically begging for that.


and a decent OF would have had that.

I did like the cop's reaction.

Sandoval is a good enough third baseman that you lose a ton of his value by signing him to DH.

philpritchard wrote:Sandoval is a good enough third baseman that you lose a ton of his value by signing him to DH.

Agreed. It's so foolish when teams pay a guy a premium because of the numbers he puts up at his particular position, when they arent likely to play that position for the length of the deal.

If Victor gets 4/66, Sandoval might be able to command 6 from at least San Fran.

Hey Skitch, let's talk Anthony Gose.

philpritchard wrote:Hey Skitch, let's talk Anthony Gose.

Anthony Gose=Better than Carrera.

@SkitchP wrote:

philpritchard wrote:Hey Skitch, let's talk Anthony Gose.

Anthony Gose=Better than Carrera.

Devon Travis = better than Goins

Everybody wins!

philpritchard wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

philpritchard wrote:Hey Skitch, let's talk Anthony Gose.

Anthony Gose=Better than Carrera.

Devon Travis = better than Goins

Everybody wins!

Basically, yeah. Tigers Outfield defense was so. so. so. bad last year. Getting a D-first CF is fine with me.