Red Mosquito

Its wasteful. i just cant imagine this is a huge money maker

Eilish herself had variants and various boxes with her latest album too. I don’t think she had exclusive indie store ones too. Find it kinda weird to see her complaining about it.

stip wrote:Its wasteful. i just cant imagine this is a huge money maker

Bros over @ the pit tell me they’re getting all 12 variants.


It’s a strange, strange thing to me.

VinylGuy wrote:Eilish herself had variants and various boxes with her latest album too. I don’t think she had exclusive indie store ones too. Find it kinda weird to see her complaining about it.

the best time to complain about getting some is right after you got yours.

Eilish gets it

stip wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Eilish herself had variants and various boxes with her latest album too. I don’t think she had exclusive indie store ones too. Find it kinda weird to see her complaining about it.

the best time to complain about getting some is right after you got yours.

Eilish gets it

Yeah maybe she is dealing with it the way PJ dealt in the 90s too. Don’t know. But she has a new album in the can and I’m sure they will make variants of that, maybe even the new thing were they put different b sides in different version without telling you

Variants are wasteful. Most of what we consume is wasteful. I love physical books, but in a world where kindles exist they are wasteful. But if variant record pressings (or the wasteful vinyl industry since streaming exists) disappeared tomorrow the impact on the world's carbon footprint is probably negligible.

Be mad at crypto currency, which is just as stupid as variants (dumber) and actually has an enormously devastating environmental impact

I've got no real beef with what Eilish said, though. It's well meaning posturing, but that's fine. Most public declarations are. It is nearly impossible to practice what you preach in every aspect of your life.

For a period of 5 years (late 1992 through 1997) Pearl Jam was the rare band/artist that actually managed to practice what they preached in a totalizing way - with the press blackouts, no videos, ticketmaster boycott, etc. It was a cool thing to support and tangentially be a part of.

But the values shift happened with Yield. No one likes to talk about it because people are attached to the album, but that's when Pearl Jam turned their back on their celibacy. The point afterwards at which you start to care is the point at which you start to be disappointed in the music. Sometimes, to help explain away why the music means less to you, you'll make the 'they only care about making money/releasing art to be popular' argument. But again, Yield is the pivot point. Any line drawn after Yield is largely arbitrary and based on personal preference.

Trag has been riding his horse to exhaustion, but at some point 100 pages back he said he could make his peace with sex crimes if the music sounded good to him. As would we all.

tragabigzanda wrote:That’s a very narrow reading of what I said, idiot.

the variant wastefulness or the sex crimes?

tragabigzanda wrote:

stip wrote:Variants are wasteful. Most of what we consume is wasteful. I love physical books, but in a world where kindles exist they are wasteful. But if variant record pressings (or the wasteful vinyl industry since streaming exists) disappeared tomorrow the impact on the world's carbon footprint is probably negligible.

Be mad at crypto currency, which is just as stupid as variants (dumber) and actually has an enormously devastating environmental impact

I've got no real beef with what Eilish said, though. It's well meaning posturing, but that's fine. Most public declarations are. It is nearly impossible to practice what you preach in every aspect of your life.

For a period of 5 years (late 1992 through 1997) Pearl Jam was the rare band/artist that actually managed to practice what they preached in a totalizing way - with the press blackouts, no videos, ticketmaster boycott, etc. It was a cool thing to support and tangentially be a part of.

But the values shift happened with Yield. No one likes to talk about it because people are attached to the album, but that's when Pearl Jam turned their back on their celibacy. The point afterwards at which you start to care is the point at which you start to be disappointed in the music. Sometimes, to help explain away why the music means less to you, you'll make the 'they only care about making money/releasing art to be popular' argument. But again, Yield is the pivot point. Any line drawn after Yield is largely arbitrary and based on personal preference.

Trag has been riding his horse to exhaustion, but at some point 100 pages back he said he could make his peace with sex crimes if the music sounded good to him. As would we all.

That’s a very narrow reading of what I said, idiot.

It's not a charitable read. But is it wrong? I recall you feeling slightly sheepish about it.

nevermind, you paraphrased.

nothing wrong with a physical book, you nerds.

Nothing matters anyway, idiots.

We're all gonig to die. Its all too late.

Make love to your wife, cook your kids breakfast, exercise, sleep when you can, eat well, drink plenty, listen to music. Jerk off.

Get over yourselves all of you. Its all gonna end real soon

and...

SUCK MY SACK!

YOU ARE ALL WORTHLESS IN A HELPLESS WORLD

NOTHING YOU DO MATTERS

YOU ARE LITTLE

tragabigzanda wrote:“It doesn’t matter that Pearl Jam pays their artists in merch because crypto is a thing that exists.” -stip, verbatim

Yes, but only for as long as I still love their music.