Red Mosquito

Bi_3 wrote:Trump admin model updates ain’t good:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... hs-by-june

Solution: open the economy back up. All restrictions lifted.

wease wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:Trump admin model updates ain’t good:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... hs-by-june

Solution: open the economy back up. All restrictions lifted.

BE SMART. WIN.

Even if you scrape away all questions of morality, I don't see how this makes any sense politically. If even they think it's going to get worse, and the country will undoubtedly link Trump with opening up quickly, what do they think people are going to take away from that? Especially because these deaths are more likely to be happening throughout the country, rather than a specific region. I have a feeling people around the country have pigeonholed the coronavirus problem death rate as a NY problem, that it doesn't have anything to do with them. That's not likely to be the case in a few weeks.

Simple Torture wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

knee tunes wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

96583UP wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

96583UP wrote:surprised that the HIV/AIDs number is still so high

Not sure if serious.

i thought they had this better under control at this point

but you know i live in sheltered first world bubble

is there not an HIV vaccine yet?

sad

Thats is not the actual number. The latest numbers are from 2018. I suspect the creator of that "fact sheet" took the absolute upper limit of the 2018 total estimate and divided it by 4. It took me 10 seconds of googling to find that.

What. Google "Worldometer aids"
2018 is not the latest Numbers

Google longer than 10 seconds maybe

It's a good thing that "Worldometer" lists its sources, because it's just some rando website, and I wouldn't trust their numbers unless they pulled from reputable organizations doing research on this topic. On this page they have links to the statistics they use to run their models, and they link to both the WHO and UNAIDS, and those organizations both use data sets that end in...2018.

https://www.who.int/hiv/data/en/
https://www.unaids.org/en/topic/data

Simple Torture DESTROYS Knee Tunes!!!!!

Do I get an MSNBC show automatically now or is there a form I fill out?

Simple Torture wrote:The WHO estimated that 777,000 people died of AIDS/HIV-related illnesses in all of 2018. According to those numbers above, that death count will be more than 1.6 million this year. Super cool vetting of information, dude.

Not so fast, you and you.

The 2018 upper limit was 1.1 million, which divided by 4 is 275,000 and NOT what the PHAJT sheet said which was 421,808.

The reason for the difference is that (according to your links) the numbers are adjusted using trends projection guided by CURRENT information.

So it's not the simple math thing you suspected after 10 seconds of googling

Which is too bad because apparently they were trying to get the number to be below 500,000 in 2020, but it's not looking too good

You're right, I screwed up with one of my posts--I had multiplied by 4 to calculate what PHATJ's total would be this year--which would be 500k more than the upper limit for estimates of 2018.

I had a form for you ready to go too. I'll just discard it

dont argue with KT guys...she knows numbers better than we do

(USA numbers)

Awesome, Rob

Simple Torture wrote:You're right, I screwed up with one of my posts--I had multiplied by 4 to calculate what PHATJ's total would be this year--which would be 500k more than the upper limit for estimates of 2018.

No, don't let this go! 2018 is the latest numbers! You were right except for the math part!

Even if the numbers on PHATJ’s chart were solid, it wouldn’t be a good argument.

Tornados only kill around 40 Americans a year. Hurricanes vary, but it’s usually between 30 and 120. According to the logic of argument that inspired that chart, those low numbers would not be evidence that sheltering in place during a tornado mitigates the death toll....but rather that it was grossly unnecessary.

theplatypus wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:You're right, I screwed up with one of my posts--I had multiplied by 4 to calculate what PHATJ's total would be this year--which would be 500k more than the upper limit for estimates of 2018.

No, don't let this go! 2018 is the latest numbers! You were right except for the math part!

It is a great shame.

One that thing is clear in all of this: Ya'll spent way too much time on a phatj political meme

theplatypus wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:You're right, I screwed up with one of my posts--I had multiplied by 4 to calculate what PHATJ's total would be this year--which would be 500k more than the upper limit for estimates of 2018.

No, don't let this go! 2018 is the latest numbers! You were right except for the math part!

it's 2018 adjusted with current other information. The only thing the bad math did was prevent him from seeing that it's not just straight up pro-rata 2018

Strat wrote:One that thing is clear in all of this: Ya'll spent way too much time on a phatj political meme

I'm spending time on math . It's what I do. I can't help it

McParadigm wrote:Even if the numbers on PHATJ’s chart were solid, it wouldn’t be a good argument.

Tornados only kill around 40 Americans a year. Hurricanes vary, but it’s usually between 30 and 120. According to the logic of argument that inspired that chart, those low numbers would not be evidence that sheltering in place during a tornado mitigates the death toll....but rather that it was grossly unnecessary.

Sheltering under a place

knee tunes wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Even if the numbers on PHATJ’s chart were solid, it wouldn’t be a good argument.

Tornados only kill around 40 Americans a year. Hurricanes vary, but it’s usually between 30 and 120. According to the logic of argument that inspired that chart, those low numbers would not be evidence that sheltering in place during a tornado mitigates the death toll....but rather that it was grossly unnecessary.

Sheltering under a place

Think of how much money Florida’s economy could save by remaining fully open during a hurricane. We can’t let the cure be worse than the disease!

Strat wrote:One that thing is clear in all of this: Ya'll spent way too much time on a phatj political meme

This post right here.