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Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 8:00 pm
by BurtReynolds
Do you mean Joe Rogan and Alex Jones? It would be my honor and privilege to share a wank with those kings of men.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 8:15 pm
by Bi_3
dimejinky99 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So will it still be a victory when some ‘antifa’ guy turns up armed at a protest and ‘defends’ himself by murdering a few people that you happen to agree with?

Weird precedent to set, never mind to celebrate. (The usual suspect Factions online are celebrating like they’ve personally won the superbowl or something).
If those people are dumb enough to attack an armed individual not instigating anything then sure. Even communists have the right to self defense.

Is travelling across state lines with an assault rifle self Defence? Or is it instigating?
Enquiring minds wanna know.
Though this was reported in the media frequently and is still repeated often, he did not actually do this. The gun was already in the state at his friend’s house. He did not bring a gun across state lines.

Full disclosure: I believed this as well until a couple weeks ago

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 8:16 pm
by dimejinky99
Final word on that topic

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 8:35 pm
by Bi_3
In which Chuck Todd publicly mourns a pedo and wife beater:

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 8:41 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
I don't understand the same people calling for Rittenhouse's acquittal are the ones saying that those guys deserved to die because of their past crimes. Their past crimes in the same justice system you are now championing didn't sentence them to death for those crimes, did they? Sure they were pieces of shit.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 8:51 pm
by simple schoolboy
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I don't understand the same people calling for Rittenhouse's acquittal are the ones saying that those guys deserved to die because of their past crimes. Their past crimes in the same justice system you are now championing didn't sentence them to death for those crimes, did they? Sure they were pieces of shit.
For Rosenbaum, some people proclaim that child rapists should be executed in all cases, which is a take I guess. (Of coure this is not public policy)

I don't believe I've seen the same about Huber, more like his demise was not much of a loss.

These are emotional, vaguely moral arguments, which has very little to do with how the legal system functions. But yes, consistency is too much to hope for.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 9:01 pm
by macphisto
dimejinky99 wrote:So will it still be a victory when some ‘antifa’ guy turns up armed at a protest and ‘defends’ himself by murdering a few people that you happen to agree with?

Weird precedent to set, never mind to celebrate. (The usual suspect Factions online are celebrating like they’ve personally won the superbowl or something).
If the circumstances are substantially similar except that the teams are reversed, then the verdict should be the same.

Everyone with an IQ > room temp knows the circumstances won’t be even close. But hey, keep FA and you’ll keep FO.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 9:03 pm
by simple schoolboy

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 9:06 pm
by Bi_3
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I don't understand the same people calling for Rittenhouse's acquittal are the ones saying that those guys deserved to die because of their past crimes. Their past crimes in the same justice system you are now championing didn't sentence them to death for those crimes, did they? Sure they were pieces of shit.
They didn't deserve to die for their past crimes. No one does. But there is a world of difference between the reality of their lives and this:

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They were not allies who sacrificed for the cause. As McP's fav Bari Weiss said:

Bari Wiess wrote:
Had the people Rittenhouse shot, as [Congresswoman] Pressley claims, “assembled to affirm the value, dignity, and worth of Black lives”?

Watch this video of Joseph Rosenbaum and ask yourself if that is how you would describe this person:
Edit: ***WARNING NSFW LANGUAGE***
Spoiler: show
Rosenbaum, 36, had spent years of his life in prison because he was a convicted sex offender. The morning he was killed, Rosenbaum was released from a Milwaukee hospital where he had been admitted after a suicide attempt. Ryan Balch, another witness for the prosecution, testified that Rosenbaum threatened both Balch and Rittenhouse saying, “If I catch you guys alone tonight, I’m gonna fucking kill you.”

This seems like a situation where a violent man in the middle of complete breakdown got caught up in the riots, encountered a naive incel-in-progress armed with a assault weapon, and the events tragically spiraled out of control... only be taken up be a media desperate to tar Orange Man with racism in a close election. Then off to a politically motivated prosecution in what might be worst lawyered public trial in modern history. No winners here.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 9:11 pm
by simple schoolboy
There's a split on the general performance of the defence. Part of their questionable decisions could have been inspired by things we are not privy to, such as their client's requests and the demeanor of the jury. Seems like the jury forewoman was very for convicting him of something.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 10:11 pm
by simple schoolboy
Maybe we should be nicer to dime if this is the quality of reporting he is seeing.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 10:38 pm
by spike
Was supposed to meet a buddy downtown for dinner and drinks tonight. May have to reconsider our destination.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 10:44 pm
by dimejinky99
simple schoolboy wrote:Maybe we should be nicer to dime if this is the quality of reporting he is seeing.

I don’t come into it.
You’re supporting a guy that killed two people and is now a mutant figurehead for whatever far right notions you have. He’s still an idiot kid. And championing His mind being warped by all that and the fact that he murdered people and got away with it.

It’s disgusting, but you do you.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 11:14 pm
by Stickman
Not guilty??

How the fuck could you Yankees mess that up??!

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 11:31 pm
by simple schoolboy
dimejinky99 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:Maybe we should be nicer to dime if this is the quality of reporting he is seeing.

I don’t come into it.
You’re supporting a guy that killed two people and is now a mutant figurehead for whatever far right notions you have. He’s still an idiot kid. And championing His mind being warped by all that and the fact that he murdered people and got away with it.

It’s disgusting, but you do you.
I think its perfectly fine to shoot someone who tries to wrest away your weapon, uses potentially lethal force against you, or points a gun at you, especially when you instigate nothing.

Maybe in your weird euro land, you are restricted to 'proportional' force or having a duty to retreat, but those are dumb and benefit the aggressor.

I don't want to live in a country where if you 'provoke' violent, unstable people into attacking you through your legal actions, you have to take a beating for not having the psychic ability to foresee what might trigger them. This is what the prosecutor argued. Take a beating from the child rapist.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 11:47 pm
by B
simple schoolboy wrote: Take a beating from the child rapist.
:?:

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Fri November 19, 2021 11:54 pm
by simple schoolboy
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote: Take a beating from the child rapist.
:?:
Take a beating from a manic manlet? Is that better?

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sat November 20, 2021 12:04 am
by Bi_3
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote: Take a beating from the child rapist.
:?:
The prosecutor (lunchbox) said in his closing this wouldn’t have happened if K-rit had just taken a beating rather than fight back against rosenbaum (convicted pedo)

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sat November 20, 2021 1:09 am
by BurtReynolds
These people want you to be cattle.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sat November 20, 2021 1:20 am
by Jorge
Is his name really Lunchbox