Song of the Moment: Mind Your Manners

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Mind Your Manners

5 Stars
85
31%
4 Stars
117
43%
3 Stars
37
14%
2 Stars
23
8%
1 Star
10
4%
 
Total votes: 272

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harmless wrote:Anything is a better argument than semantics, for sure. But there were visual clues in this artwork that eclecticism is what we might get, as well as light and dark. The artwork for SBM was a mindfuck because the song will be, I'm sure of it. We also know they had two sessions; one was "a logical extension of Backspacer", and the other wasn't.
I agree. And I think our perception of the art work was initially influenced by the sound of mind your manners. It fits what we're hearing just fine.
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McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:Anything is a better argument than semantics, for sure. But there were visual clues in this artwork that eclecticism is what we might get, as well as light and dark. The artwork for SBM was a mindfuck because the song will be, I'm sure of it. We also know they had two sessions; one was "a logical extension of Backspacer", and the other wasn't.
I agree. And I think our perception of the art work was initially influenced by the sound of mind your manners. It fits what we're hearing just fine.
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The problem (and I think it will be a problem, although not for me, thankfully) with releasing a totally unrepresentative single as your lead track for an album is absolutely classic PJ and has plagued them forever. Except given the surprises these days, that means more people are puking in their mouths. By and large, a surprise from PJ is a relatively unpleasant experience these days. Personally, I've had a bad taste in my mouth with new PJ before (Yield, Binaural, even Riot Act). So it's old news to me. The worst thing about S/T and Backspacer were that I felt very little at all for them. They were just OK, for different reasons. My positive reaction to this album has been through the roof and the songs are hitting the right emotional buttons. Why? I haven't got the first clue, but I'm enjoying it and not analysing it too much.
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harmless wrote:My positive reaction to this album has been through the roof and the songs are hitting the right emotional buttons. Why? I haven't got the first clue, but I'm enjoying it and not analysing it too much.
Uh
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Birds in Hell wrote:
harmless wrote:My positive reaction to this album has been through the roof and the songs are hitting the right emotional buttons. Why? I haven't got the first clue, but I'm enjoying it and not analysing it too much.
Uh
Yeah OK that might've been a little white lie. I've been analysing it to death but what I mean is I've not really been entertaining everything I know could be interpreted as awful about these songs. I know that my favourite pop songs are pretty bad, but they do the job, so I don't consider them bad. Backspacer just didn't do that job, on the whole; it wasn't rocky enough to kick ass for me, and wasn't pop enough for me to strip off to it.
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I'vegotanunfortunatefeeling... that I'm going to forever associate the intro to this song with finishing a PJ youtube clip.
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ridleybradout wrote:I'vegotanunfortunatefeeling... that I'm going to forever associate the intro to this song with finishing a PJ youtube clip.
:lol:
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Whenever I see your new avatar Harmless I can't help but think of Larry David in Seinfeld screaming "Like flaming globes!!!!!!"
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ridleybradout wrote:Whenever I see your new avatar Harmless I can't help but think of Larry David in Seinfeld screaming "Like flaming globes!!!!!!"
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Is MYM going to be the odd man out on this album I wonder?
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it is quite empty compared to the rest thus far.
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harmless wrote:pop enough for me to strip off to it.
That's so hot.
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Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:pop enough for me to strip off to it.
That's so hot.
:luv:

Yeah, guys, these tracks are full-bodied Vedder. Why is MYM produced so thinly? Is that meant to be a punk thing? 'Cus between that, and the fact that Matt doesn't really show up, I'm always reminded why I don't like punk when I hear this song.
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Birds in Hell wrote:
harmless wrote:My positive reaction to this album has been through the roof and the songs are hitting the right emotional buttons. Why? I haven't got the first clue, but I'm enjoying it and not analysing it too much.
Uh
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Odd man out on the whole record

Bit it works somehow
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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It's in the wrong place.

Would have been a great entrance to a remixed second half.
Just to lift things.
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Passed Worldwide Suicide at radio in terms of both audience and plays, this week.
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McParadigm wrote:Passed Worldwide Suicide at radio in terms of both audience and plays, this week.
Does it have any legs left or are we in steep decline territory?
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Still top 20 at Active and Mainstream. It got a thousand spins last week (Sirens, still on its way up, managed 2,000, for comparison). I'd guess it'll get another three thousand on its way out the door. That would leave things looking something like this for the post-Riot Act phase:

Just Breathe: 55-60,000 (I forget exactly offhand)
Fixer: 50,000
Mind Your Manners: 38,000
WWS: 34,000

Everything else: less than 20,000 (unless I'm forgetting something)
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Interesting. I'd say that's pretty damn good for a single as "harsh" as MYM.
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