You want this over there too? Or merged into that thread for reference?
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Sun June 24, 2018 2:41 am
by LoathedVermin72
No, this is Jorge’s thread. It should remain unmolested
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Sun June 24, 2018 5:11 am
by Jammer XCI
Thanks for making this happen everyone.
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:03 pm
by Jorge
Is this song nu-metal?
Before answering, ask yourself: if this wasn't Smashing Pumpkins but from no-name dreadlock-bearded band from Wisconsin, would it be nu-metal? If it had a different singer, would it be nu-metal?
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:06 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I think it could be with different vocals. Corgan’s whine kinda cancels out any Nu potential there.
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:10 pm
by run2death
The chorus seems too lilting and melodic to be nu-metal.
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:13 pm
by Ello Sailor
Both good points. If the vocals were more dudebro then it'd absolutely be nu-metal.
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:15 pm
by tree_
I don't know but it's a terrible song. I remember wanting to like this really badly at one time in my life.
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:17 pm
by Jorge
I love "The Everlasting Gaze"!
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:21 pm
by LoathedVermin72
One of my favorite SP songs, for sure
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:22 pm
by Ello Sailor
Song fucking slays. Go, Jimmy, go!
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:29 pm
by Jammer XCI
The Everlasting Gaze isn’t exactly nu metal, but it is appropriating/copping the style for sure. It’s more groove metal sounding to me.
Melissa Auf Der Maur’s bass work in SP was always out of place, her bass tone sounds very nu metal comared to Darcy and whoever the hell they’ve had since.
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:30 pm
by Jorge
I thought D'arcy played on Machina and Auf der Maur joined after it was done
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:34 pm
by Ello Sailor
Correct.
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:36 pm
by Ello Sailor
But Billy, James and D'arcy all played bass on the album. I'm not sure who did which tracks, though.
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:40 pm
by Jammer XCI
Ello Sailor wrote:But Billy, James and D'arcy all played bass on the album. I'm not sure who did which tracks, though.
I’m sure it’s Bi Corg revisionist history, but he says him and James were the only bass players on Machina I.
I was mainly referring to live footage from their tour with her I’ve seen, she sounds extremely downtuned and clunky on older songs.
Re: Were They Nu-Metal?
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:44 pm
by Ello Sailor
Jammer XCI wrote:I’m sure it’s Bi Corg revisionist history, but he says him and James were the only bass players on Machina I.
I wouldn't be surprised, but D'arcy is definitely listed as contributing bass.
Jammer XCI wrote:I was mainly referring to live footage from their tour with her I’ve seen, she sounds extremely downtuned and clunky on older songs.
I would agree with this. I was a big fan of her at the time though. She's just so damn enchanting.