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That's a bad faith response.
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BurtReynolds wrote:That's a bad faith response.
Oh, did you mean does literally every transitioning person (including those who are not on hormones whatsoever) have an altered medico-biological reality than their pre-transitioning state? That sounds like a reasonable reading of my post.
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BurtReynolds wrote:That's a bad faith response.
Oh, did you mean does literally every transitioning person (including those who are not on hormones whatsoever) have an altered medico-biological reality than their pre-transitioning state? That sounds like a reasonable reading of my post.
What was the reasonable reading of the bolded part of bi_3's post in your mind?
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Mickey wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:That's a bad faith response.
Oh, did you mean does literally every transitioning person (including those who are not on hormones whatsoever) have an altered medico-biological reality than their pre-transitioning state? That sounds like a reasonable reading of my post.
What was the reasonable reading of the bolded part of bi_3's post in your mind?
That it's a false and totalizing claim made by a dipshit in support of an ultimately bigoted line of questioning.
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Mickey wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Mickey wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
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Bi_3 wrote:Not sure what to think about this:

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out ... s-n1006466
No worries brother, I can help you with that:
“Medical training should include exposure to transgender patients” so health workers are better able to meet their needs, Wexler said. “A lot of doctors who are practicing didn’t have that in their training” but can still learn from such patients now.
If someone marks a biological sex on a medical form when they are genetically the other, should the doctor not believe the form?
Tfw the student has not done the reading but still thinks he has some good ideas.

What was your answer to the question?
That it's a bad faith question and should be ignored.
Transitioning does not alter the reality of biological differences and that medical treatment options and approaches can vary by sex.
Again, students who haven't done the reading don't get to participate in the discussion, but oh my fucking god yes it does.
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Oh well in that case.
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Okay but does he have an Ivy League Phd?
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Community college is just as good.
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BurtReynolds wrote:Community college is just as good.
those are just high schools with ashtrays, burt..
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The world sucks.
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So, uh ... Trans Rights is a thing now, huh?

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Happy about the Supreme Court verdict.
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Anders wrote:Happy about the Supreme Court verdict.
That was Sunday, before the verdict.
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I mean I am happy about the Supreme Court Verdict. Agree that all these mass gatherings are unsafe regarding Corona.
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Should males who have transitioned to females be allowed to compete with other females in sports?
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We've debated this in the thread. There's not a consensus like in your other fireball opinions.
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Rogan must have mentioned it during a show again.
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oh.. didn't read through the whole thread sorry

actually it was brought up in this very good conversation

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when these people say something I take it very seriously


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tree_ wrote:oh.. didn't read through the whole thread sorry
I didn't meant to imply that you needed to, sorry.
tree_ wrote:actually it was brought up in this very good conversation
Jesus, how can you listen to that. I passed out at 1:22.
tree_ wrote:when these people say something I take it very seriously
Really? Because all of your posts pretty much reek of patronizing sarcasm, including that one.


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Why don't you make your case for transgender women being excluded from women's sports, and we'll take it from there?
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