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Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 4:45 pm
by dad
tragabigzanda wrote:I was never once salivating for PJ covers in the live set. Two is a good amount.
Still wish they’d banged out a covers record circa Riot Act though.
Driven to Tears was a good one. Fortunate Son too.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 4:48 pm
by evenslow
Guys the covers are fine as long as it isn’t RITFW for the trillionth time.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 4:49 pm
by 96583UP
happy to hear Take the Long Way rocked
Jeremy (live) always slays. Funny bc the studio version was played ad nauseum and it’s not a track I can listen to by myself, kind of ever. But I always want them to play it live. That outtro booms, the whole arena is belting their lungs out, and PJ and Ed just bash it all out. Great times. Black never disappoints live too.
I’m all for ‘well played’ or ‘creative adaptations’ of covers. ‘Fuckin Up’ blows the roof off. Baba O’Reilly usually does too. Purple Rain is usually an average bar cover band version when PJ plays it. Only the diehards dig it. It’s a fuckin long song, and a momentum killer. It is a waste of a live track opportunity for PJ. Why not just play more pearl jam songs instead?
PJ’s pink floyd covers usually suck too.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 4:52 pm
by 96583UP
evenslow wrote:Guys the covers are fine as long as it isn’t RITFW for the trillionth time.
I actually really enjoy RITFW

It’s got deep old school personal connection to me and Stone’s solos are a nice change of rockin’ pace
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 4:53 pm
by Bi_3
96583UP wrote:evenslow wrote:Guys the covers are fine as long as it isn’t RITFW for the trillionth time.
I actually really enjoy RITFW

It’s got deep old school personal connection to me and Stone’s solos are a nice change of rockin’ pace
RITFW > Last Kiss
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 4:55 pm
by Bi_3
I also think 'I Wont Back Down' dedicated to a kid Ed actually knew and who fought hard up to the end is pretty awesome.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 5:52 pm
by Happy Trees
96583UP wrote:happy to hear Take the Long Way rocked
Jeremy (live) always slays. Funny bc the studio version was played ad nauseum and it’s not a track I can listen to by myself, kind of ever. But I always want them to play it live. That outtro booms, the whole arena is belting their lungs out, and PJ and Ed just bash it all out. Great times. Black never disappoints live too.
I like the live versions from 2000 when they would suddenly pull the plug halfway through the outro - they should have left it that way because the rest is superfluous and boring to sit through. It was perfect.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 5:54 pm
by tyweed
96583UP wrote:happy to hear Take the Long Way rocked
Jeremy (live) always slays. Funny bc the studio version was played ad nauseum and it’s not a track I can listen to by myself, kind of ever. But I always want them to play it live. That outtro booms, the whole arena is belting their lungs out, and PJ and Ed just bash it all out. Great times. Black never disappoints live too.
I’m all for ‘well played’ or ‘creative adaptations’ of covers. ‘Fuckin Up’ blows the roof off. Baba O’Reilly usually does too. Purple Rain is usually an average bar cover band version when PJ plays it. Only the diehards dig it. It’s a fuckin long song, and a momentum killer. It is a waste of a live track opportunity for PJ. Why not just play more pearl jam songs instead?
PJ’s pink floyd covers usually suck too.
Fuckin Up is their best cover by far. So, of course, they rarely play it.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 5:58 pm
by wease
tyweed wrote:96583UP wrote:happy to hear Take the Long Way rocked
Jeremy (live) always slays. Funny bc the studio version was played ad nauseum and it’s not a track I can listen to by myself, kind of ever. But I always want them to play it live. That outtro booms, the whole arena is belting their lungs out, and PJ and Ed just bash it all out. Great times. Black never disappoints live too.
I’m all for ‘well played’ or ‘creative adaptations’ of covers. ‘Fuckin Up’ blows the roof off. Baba O’Reilly usually does too. Purple Rain is usually an average bar cover band version when PJ plays it. Only the diehards dig it. It’s a fuckin long song, and a momentum killer. It is a waste of a live track opportunity for PJ. Why not just play more pearl jam songs instead?
PJ’s pink floyd covers usually suck too.
Fuckin Up is their best cover by far. So, of course, they rarely play it.
It was pretty much a staple for a while, tho.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 6:18 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 6:23 pm
by CopperTom
wease wrote:Strat wrote:wease wrote:Strat wrote:96583UP wrote:PJ’s purple rain is mega boring
and Josh’s vocals are unsettling
Did ‘Take the Long Way’ have a pumping bassline? Always wonder how much better that wouldv’e been on album with big bass presence
It sounded fucking great to me! At least as good as any loud arena show can sound ! Super tight as well.
Did Josh sing Purple Rain?
Yea all but first verse.
How fucking lame.
“We’re gonna close our show with a cover song and our ancillary member is gonna sing it for you,”
Unless the original artist comes out and sings it, if your band does a cover song, at least sing the fucking thing. Bullshit move
Plus the opening act was on stage too.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 6:24 pm
by wease
CopperTom wrote:wease wrote:Strat wrote:wease wrote:Strat wrote:96583UP wrote:PJ’s purple rain is mega boring
and Josh’s vocals are unsettling
Did ‘Take the Long Way’ have a pumping bassline? Always wonder how much better that wouldv’e been on album with big bass presence
It sounded fucking great to me! At least as good as any loud arena show can sound ! Super tight as well.
Did Josh sing Purple Rain?
Yea all but first verse.
How fucking lame.
“We’re gonna close our show with a cover song and our ancillary member is gonna sing it for you,”
Unless the original artist comes out and sings it, if your band does a cover song, at least sing the fucking thing. Bullshit move
Plus the opening act was on stage too.
Ugh
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 6:25 pm
by tyweed
wease wrote:tyweed wrote:96583UP wrote:happy to hear Take the Long Way rocked
Jeremy (live) always slays. Funny bc the studio version was played ad nauseum and it’s not a track I can listen to by myself, kind of ever. But I always want them to play it live. That outtro booms, the whole arena is belting their lungs out, and PJ and Ed just bash it all out. Great times. Black never disappoints live too.
I’m all for ‘well played’ or ‘creative adaptations’ of covers. ‘Fuckin Up’ blows the roof off. Baba O’Reilly usually does too. Purple Rain is usually an average bar cover band version when PJ plays it. Only the diehards dig it. It’s a fuckin long song, and a momentum killer. It is a waste of a live track opportunity for PJ. Why not just play more pearl jam songs instead?
PJ’s pink floyd covers usually suck too.
Fuckin Up is their best cover by far. So, of course, they rarely play it.
It was pretty much a staple for a while, tho.
Yes, mostly back in 2000, which was arguably their live peak - 23 years ago. That said, I still think they're playing well.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 6:27 pm
by tyweed
tragabigzanda wrote:I thought the Masters of War covers post-9/11 were phenomenal
How did I forget this?! MoW is definitely one of their very best covers.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 6:49 pm
by Chris_H_2
spike wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:did they really have to play that many covers?
Is this a newish complaint now that the sets are shorter? Seems not so long ago we were all salivating for covers.
It’s always been a complaint of mine. But it’s worse now that covers are nearly 20% of the set.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 7:20 pm
by CopperTom
wease wrote:CopperTom wrote:wease wrote:Strat wrote:wease wrote:Strat wrote:96583UP wrote:PJ’s purple rain is mega boring
and Josh’s vocals are unsettling
Did ‘Take the Long Way’ have a pumping bassline? Always wonder how much better that wouldv’e been on album with big bass presence
It sounded fucking great to me! At least as good as any loud arena show can sound ! Super tight as well.
Did Josh sing Purple Rain?
Yea all but first verse.
How fucking lame.
“We’re gonna close our show with a cover song and our ancillary member is gonna sing it for you,”
Unless the original artist comes out and sings it, if your band does a cover song, at least sing the fucking thing. Bullshit move
Plus the opening act was on stage too.
Ugh
At least 3 had tambourines. None had guitars that weren't actually plugged in though.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 7:21 pm
by Simple Torture
tyweed wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I thought the Masters of War covers post-9/11 were phenomenal
How did I forget this?! MoW is definitely one of their very best covers.
5-24-06 Masters of War is the tops.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 7:24 pm
by CopperTom
Chris_H_2 wrote:spike wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:did they really have to play that many covers?
Is this a newish complaint now that the sets are shorter? Seems not so long ago we were all salivating for covers.
It’s always been a complaint of mine. But it’s worse now that covers are nearly 20% of the set.
I've been anti-cover for years.
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 8:37 pm
by evenslow
We’re aware
Re: 2023-09-02: St. Paul, MN
Posted: Sun September 03, 2023 8:50 pm
by VinylGuy
Cool setlist, its nice to see Take The Long Way, thats a very cool song to hear live. Im not a huge fan of the covers from recent tours, and yes, enough of Purple Rain, specially if its Josh singing.
Still, the band seems on fire like always.