Red Mosquito

Ms Harmless wrote:

Strat wrote:Pj has earned the right to annoy me at this point.

I'd like to think I've put in that work too

wease wrote:

stip wrote:but the most important thing is that we are all enjoying new pearl jam in the presence of each other’s company and not descending into Lightning Bolt era levels of acrimony and despair

Give it time

about 24 more hours should do it

stip wrote:definitely ahead of take the long way.

Always blown away by people’s opinions! Haha

TTLW is a song I’d gladly play for my music buddies. I’d be a little embarrassed to play Running. Guess I like my PJ more rock/serious than punk/playful if that makes any sense! This one is in the ole, Jonny guitar, supersonic, big wave category unfortunately for me - my least favourite type of PJ.

Ms Harmless wrote:both of these songs get better (or more comfortable) for me with each listen and that's what PJ should do, so I'm happy

this is where I'm at too

Running -> something special could be a nice segue

agreed, I was expecting to hate it

I'm fuckin' loving this. 4 stars.

SJM wrote:

stip wrote:definitely ahead of take the long way.

Always blown away by people’s opinions! Haha

TTLW is a song I’d gladly play for my music buddies. I’d be a little embarrassed to play Running. Guess I like my PJ more rock/serious than punk/playful if that makes any sense! This one is in the ole, Jonny guitar, supersonic, big wave category unfortunately for me - my least favourite type of PJ.

All good to great songs!

SJM wrote:

stip wrote:definitely ahead of take the long way.

Always blown away by people’s opinions! Haha

TTLW is a song I’d gladly play for my music buddies. I’d be a little embarrassed to play Running. Guess I like my PJ more rock/serious than punk/playful if that makes any sense! This one is in the ole, Jonny guitar, supersonic, big wave category unfortunately for me - my least favourite type of PJ.

mine too, but this feels like a successful iteration of a choice i prefer they not make

Leatherhead wrote:

SJM wrote:

stip wrote:definitely ahead of take the long way.

Always blown away by people’s opinions! Haha

TTLW is a song I’d gladly play for my music buddies. I’d be a little embarrassed to play Running. Guess I like my PJ more rock/serious than punk/playful if that makes any sense! This one is in the ole, Jonny guitar, supersonic, big wave category unfortunately for me - my least favourite type of PJ.

All good to great songs!

Sweet baby Jesus.

okay, this is weird. i just listened to this on my airpods and it sounded bad. guitars sounded thin. bass barely present. this was a wildly different experience than listening in my car

stip wrote:okay, this is weird. i just listened to this on my airpods and it sounded bad. guitars sounded thin. bass barely present. this was a wildly different experience than listening in my car

Now you're getting it

but in one of these environments it was such a stronger song. if this was what i heard first id have a totally different opinion. this was a dramatic difference

stip wrote:but in one of these environments it was such a stronger song. if this was what i heard first id have a totally different opinion. this was a dramatic difference

I think that is the goal of these productions. Crank it real fucking loud so it sounds great on shitty speakers in your car driving fast.

But given any intricate listening scenario, sounds like horseshit.

First impression was that it’s a three star song. Hopefully the weakest on the album.

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:but in one of these environments it was such a stronger song. if this was what i heard first id have a totally different opinion. this was a dramatic difference

I think that is the goal of these productions. Crank it real fucking loud so it sounds great on shitty speakers in your car driving fast.

But given any intricate listening scenario, sounds like horseshit.

why would it sound great on shitty car speakers? because of ambient car noise filling in the gaps?

Ms Harmless wrote:

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:but in one of these environments it was such a stronger song. if this was what i heard first id have a totally different opinion. this was a dramatic difference

I think that is the goal of these productions. Crank it real fucking loud so it sounds great on shitty speakers in your car driving fast.

But given any intricate listening scenario, sounds like horseshit.

why would it sound great on shitty car speakers? because of ambient car noise filling in the gaps?

Humans gravitate towards loud things. its a fun experience in the car. It competes with songs on the radio.

Its very exciting to first hear these songs because they come at you so hard. we love that about PJ. I do, at least.

But then after a few listens, and some careful consideration, and listening on headphones, that is where my excitement starts to wind down a bit. Better equipment you can hear or not hear nuance.

i dont know. Just rapping here.

Ms Harmless wrote:

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:but in one of these environments it was such a stronger song. if this was what i heard first id have a totally different opinion. this was a dramatic difference

I think that is the goal of these productions. Crank it real fucking loud so it sounds great on shitty speakers in your car driving fast.

But given any intricate listening scenario, sounds like horseshit.

why would it sound great on shitty car speakers? because of ambient car noise filling in the gaps?

A lot of traffic, so it wasn't speed/noise. Mostly stop and start. It was loud and filled the space in a really engaging way. Just listened with my good home computer headphones, and it was better than the airpods, but there was still something flat about the mix.

I do really like this song though. The lyrics seem pretty solid too, from what I have been able to make out so far.

stip wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:but in one of these environments it was such a stronger song. if this was what i heard first id have a totally different opinion. this was a dramatic difference

I think that is the goal of these productions. Crank it real fucking loud so it sounds great on shitty speakers in your car driving fast.

But given any intricate listening scenario, sounds like horseshit.

why would it sound great on shitty car speakers? because of ambient car noise filling in the gaps?

A lot of traffic, so it wasn't speed/noise. Mostly stop and start. It was loud and filled the space in a really engaging way. Just listened with my good home computer headphones, and it was better than the airpods, but there was still something flat about the mix.

I do really like this song though. The lyrics seem pretty solid too, from what I have been able to make out so far.

yeah, I getchu

Strat wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:but in one of these environments it was such a stronger song. if this was what i heard first id have a totally different opinion. this was a dramatic difference

I think that is the goal of these productions. Crank it real fucking loud so it sounds great on shitty speakers in your car driving fast.

But given any intricate listening scenario, sounds like horseshit.

why would it sound great on shitty car speakers? because of ambient car noise filling in the gaps?

Humans gravitate towards loud things. its a fun experience in the car. It competes with songs on the radio.

Its very exciting to first hear these songs because they come at you so hard. we love that about PJ. I do, at least.

But then after a few listens, and some careful consideration, and listening on headphones, that is where my excitement starts to wind down a bit. Better equipment you can hear or not hear nuance.

i dont know. Just rapping here.

I mean, maybe. The nuance I started to hear didn't make me like the song less per se. It's not like it felt like the car experience was papering over something as much as the headphone experience was failing to capture something else.

But I also 100% did not have this experience with Dark Matter.