Red Mosquito

McParadigm wrote:That blending of Indian music...tonally almost incompatible with Western scales...and "traditional" strings is so great here. I cannot fathom how it gets treated as a weak moment on the album.

Indian and further middle-eastern scales and modes have always been fascinating to me. I wish we could hear more of it in popular music. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. George is my favorite Beatle but I usually keep that to myself because its somewhat of a hipster angle to take.

fishbob wrote:I've never really like Something, although I think the guitar solo is one of George's best

The song is beautiful and the solo couldn't be more perfect.

fishbob wrote:I've never really like Something, although I think the guitar solo is one of George's best

Everybody's got their blind spots, you know. For my part, I was never big on While My Guitar Gently Weeps. It's a big fan favorite, I know, but that chord progression by itself is so unremarkable and overused that you really have to do something engaging with it to catch my ear (Gimme Shelter uses it much better, thanks). I don't feel like the songwriting does anything special with that core descending run. Some of the "that's heavy, man" lyrics are pretty cool, I do like Paul's piano work throughout, and I lerve lerve lerve Clapton's guitar...but then that feels so inappropriate to the song's key line.

I look at you all
see the love there
that's sleeping
while my guitar gently weeps (KEERRRANANGGGAWOMPWOMPWOMPWOMPWANNAWOWOW)

I enjoy the soft, acoustic guitar and organ version a bit more, but then that one feels like it needs something more to help support the melancholy serenity of the chorus.

Indian and further middle-eastern scales and modes have always been fascinating to me. I wish we could hear more of it in popular music. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. George is my favorite Beatle but I usually keep that to myself because its somewhat of a hipster angle to take.

This is a hilarious post for me to say this in, but I think I talk down George a bit in these conversations simply because I have had so many conversations with people who have that "George is the best, then John is fucking John, man...and then there's the other two," kind of mentality. I end up in a reactionary stance, sort of sounding like I like him less than I do.

I wish he'd pushed that Indian stuff more after this track, but I also love his work on Abbey Road and All Things. And I think it says a lot about what a strong writer he could be, at times, that he was no less consistent in his solo career than John Lennon or Paul McCartney were.

Funny you say that, because I've never liked "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" either, I think it's easily the most overrated Beatles song in their catalogue, while I find "Within You Without You" to be the most underrated. I do like the Love version of "While My Guitar..." waaaaaay more though, makes it a lot more sombre and meaningful I think.

zeb wrote:Within You, Without You is my favourite song from Sgt Pepper's.

One of my all time favorites

Solid work, team. That song is incredible.

Lament wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:But if you can't get past their voices, it's probably a lost cause.

Do you think stip likes Ed's version of You've Got to Hide Your Love Away?

yeah, it's nice. Hardly my favorite ed thing though

This afternoon was an interesting exercise for me. Some songs I didn't know. A bunch I haven't heard in a long time. Really solidified the fact that I do not like this band. it is mostly the voices.

Speeno, if I wasn't so burnt I could try to describe the 60s aesthetic thing. It's how the songs sound. The recordings of them. It's not a 'oh this is fluffy pop' or something like that.

This thread ended in the exact fashion I thought it would: Artistic fisticuffs and farewells.

Holy mother of goddamn God why the fuck does this thread exist?

You strike as some kind of masochist, stip.

stip wrote:This afternoon was an interesting exercise for me. Some songs I didn't know. A bunch I haven't heard in a long time. Really solidified the fact that I do not like this band. it is mostly the voices.

Speeno, if I wasn't so burnt I could try to describe the 60s aesthetic thing. It's how the songs sound. The recordings of them. It's not a 'oh this is fluffy pop' or something like that.

Do you like Stevie Wonder? Cause I'm cool with you not liking the Beatles, but I might have some problems with you not liking Stevie Wonder...

Lament wrote:

stip wrote:This afternoon was an interesting exercise for me. Some songs I didn't know. A bunch I haven't heard in a long time. Really solidified the fact that I do not like this band. it is mostly the voices.

Speeno, if I wasn't so burnt I could try to describe the 60s aesthetic thing. It's how the songs sound. The recordings of them. It's not a 'oh this is fluffy pop' or something like that.

Do you like Stevie Wonder? Cause I'm cool with you not liking the Beatles, but I might have some problems with you not liking Stevie Wonder...

that's trickier to answer. Stevie Wonder is in a genre of music I generally am not listening to, but I think he has a great voice and if a stevie wonder song comes on I'll probably like it.So I think he's a great talent in an area I don't make time for.

Whereas I SHOULD really like the beatles given the other stuff I listen to, but I don't. I really really don't.

It can be really difficult to get into something if the vocals don't do it for you. They can make or break songs and artists for me too. I don't need you to be able to sing perfectly, but I need to like what you're doing with your voice. If I don't, then I probably won't care what wonderful stuff you're doing besides that.

it's not just the vocals. Most of the music I heard yesterday was pleasant, but that's it, for the most part. No real emotional bite even on many of the songs that were supposed to have it. Not bad, just there. There were a handful of exceptions.


If the Beatles just broke today they'd be remembered as just another pretty good band. Everyone would talk about how much more talented arcade fire is. and they'd be right. And I'm hardly in love with Arcade Fire (the voice again)

stip wrote:If the Beatles just broke today they'd be remembered as just another pretty good band. Everyone would talk about how much more talented arcade fire is. and they'd be right.

Spoiler: show

With Stip, it's like, when he first starts talking, I often start to get a real opinion boner. I'm like YES, come on come on come on, but then he starts to veer into something new, some offshoot of the original opinion that I can't follow him into, and the opinion boner goes back to half-mast and disappears.

The pair of you would do well to boner out in the corner.

I think we often do, opinion-wise. It's just that no one cares to watch.

i told you the subscription fee was a bad idea.