Red Mosquito

darth_vedder wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:Back to Ed's voice, seriously, it just pisses me off at this point. "The" sounds like "Dwa". "Up" sounds like "Wup".

This is basically just how Eddie Vedder sounds now. It's not a case of good shows or bad shows, that's just his voice. His old voice is more or less gone - he's the "heeee" and "wup" guy now.

Yeah, but to follow up a bit of what WtOB was saying, it's the way he chooses to sing. Like he does not need to sing the start of In My Tree like "Wup here...". Why can't he just sing "Up here..."? Or Wishlist, why is it "dwa Christmas tree...", not "the Christmas tree..."? These are things Ed does not have to do but for whatever reason, he is choosing to sing this way. For me, it borderline ruins the songs.

They should also drop songs like MYM, Got Some, and Lukin from the setlist. Ed just can't pull those off, and the songs pretty much always sound terrible live.

Going back and listening to the older boots, Ed didn't seem to try so hard. I don't know how to explain it but his delivery was more reserved in a way, maybe that's not the right way to explain it. Like he didn't try to add all these accents and stuff, he just sang. It's like he's really trying to do something now that his voice just isn't capable of. It's not a matter of me "getting over it", it's that Ed seems to be choosing to sing a certain way now, and for me it just doesn't fit with the music as it once did. I really have no idea how to explain this...I wish I could articulate it like KD could.

I want to be clear though, this doesn't mean I hate Pearl Jam, I just don't like the way they sound live these days (primarily Ed). I'm one of the guys who likes Sirens for crying out loud. Also, I had a good time at the Baltimore show, but that could have been the shrooms.

lowlight79 wrote:

CopperTom wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

hlniv wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I can't believe they still haven't put Charlottesville, Charlotte and New Orleans back up for sale.

Yeah, wtf? It's been, what, over 3 weeks since they released Hartford/Baltimore?

Particularly when Nugs/LiveDownloads had all three for sale for a few days already (before 10C told them to take them down).

They've been on torrent sites for two weeks now, it's mind-boggling.

Jesus christ, still!

This entire delay is caused from Nugs backlog as a result of their week long vacation. Nice knowing you, Nugs. Kufala was superior. I hope there's a competing competant company to switch to. The community bashed Basecamp relentlessly, but isn't bashing Nugs enough IMHO. Some people's Philly boots haven't shipped yet. It's been almost a month. They don't return emails. You can't call them. And they are pointing the finger at PJ when you question them. And they don't even use TY discs (Kufala did). RIP Brady.

Anyone still have my old basecamp picture? it's been a while since I last saw it.

CopperTom wrote:

lowlight79 wrote:

CopperTom wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

hlniv wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I can't believe they still haven't put Charlottesville, Charlotte and New Orleans back up for sale.

Yeah, wtf? It's been, what, over 3 weeks since they released Hartford/Baltimore?

Particularly when Nugs/LiveDownloads had all three for sale for a few days already (before 10C told them to take them down).

They've been on torrent sites for two weeks now, it's mind-boggling.

Jesus christ, still!

This entire delay is caused from Nugs backlog as a result of their week long vacation. Nice knowing you, Nugs. Kufala was superior. I hope there's a competing competant company to switch to. The community bashed Basecamp relentlessly, but isn't bashing Nugs enough IMHO. Some people's Philly boots haven't shipped yet. It's been almost a month. They don't return emails. You can't call them. And they are pointing the finger at PJ when you question them. And they don't even use TY discs (Kufala did). RIP Brady.

Anyone still have my old basecamp picture? it's been a while since I last saw it.

And now they are shipping shows with 2 second gaps between tracks - Hartford Disc 2 and Disc 3. Unbelievable. Don't they do any QC?

hlniv wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:Back to Ed's voice, seriously, it just pisses me off at this point. "The" sounds like "Dwa". "Up" sounds like "Wup".

This is basically just how Eddie Vedder sounds now. It's not a case of good shows or bad shows, that's just his voice. His old voice is more or less gone - he's the "heeee" and "wup" guy now.

Yeah, but to follow up a bit of what WtOB was saying, it's the way he chooses to sing. Like he does not need to sing the start of In My Tree like "Wup here...". Why can't he just sing "Up here..."? Or Wishlist, why is it "dwa Christmas tree...", not "the Christmas tree..."? These are things Ed does not have to do but for whatever reason, he is choosing to sing this way. For me, it borderline ruins the songs.

They should also drop songs like MYM, Got Some, and Lukin from the setlist. Ed just can't pull those off, and the songs pretty much always sound terrible live.

Going back and listening to the older boots, Ed didn't seem to try so hard. I don't know how to explain it but his delivery was more reserved in a way, maybe that's not the right way to explain it. Like he didn't try to add all these accents and stuff, he just sang. It's like he's really trying to do something now that his voice just isn't capable of. It's not a matter of me "getting over it", it's that Ed seems to be choosing to sing a certain way now, and for me it just doesn't fit with the music as it once did. I really have no idea how to explain this...I wish I could articulate it like KD could.

I want to be clear though, this doesn't mean I hate Pearl Jam, I just don't like the way they sound live these days (primarily Ed). I'm one of the guys who likes Sirens for crying out loud. Also, I had a good time at the Baltimore show, but that could have been the shrooms.

Why does he sing like that now?

Poor vocal coaching and a misguided belief that he still has such a powerful voice that tone is all that matters.

Compare his voice now to '94/'95, and I'll argue that his tone is better, but the passion is gone. Without passion and with too much focus on tone and filling melody bars, you end up with forgotten lyrics and 4 vowel sounds in one-syllable words.

EJ wrote:I'm holding out until Spenno puts together a LB tour comp.

CopperTom wrote:And now they are shipping shows with 2 second gaps between tracks - Hartford Disc 2 and Disc 3. Unbelievable. Don't they do any QC?

Leehro wrote:

CopperTom wrote:And now they are shipping shows with 2 second gaps between tracks - Hartford Disc 2 and Disc 3. Unbelievable. Don't they do any QC?

Can I ask why you're (presumably) buying the CDs? I bought the CDs in 2000, 2003, and 2008, but now I just can't imagine paying extra for a CD-R that I can make myself (if I wanted to listen to the shows on CD)

cutuphalfdead wrote:You can burn your own CDs. It's the same thing that they do.

WtOB? wrote:CHUD JUST LET PEOPLE BUY THE CDs !!

CopperTom wrote: I do prefer to listen to the shows in CD format. I wait until the annual Black Friday sale to make purchases (usually). I got the box for $310 shipped. That's not much more than buying the mp3s individually and it's cheaper than buying the FLAC and HD FLAC individually. I download the FLACs (via "fair use" ) for my archive files.

I guess I'm old school regarding CDs. I've listened to every show they ever played (and a recording exists) on CD and want to keep it that way. I do appreciate the packaging. I would regret not buying them and would want to buy them down the road. I still regret not buying all the 2003s.