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Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 3:58 pm
by Kevin Davis
Stone's main guitar part in "Garden" is probably my favorite thing about Ten. A really lovely pattern.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 4:05 pm
by Farmer John
The video from their 2022 show at MSG of them playing Garden second song in the set after Release really rejuvenated my love of the song. It sounded so good.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 4:14 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah i like both Garden and Deep but in dont need to listen to them in the context of the album.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 4:34 pm
by Vitalogist
Kevin Davis wrote:Stone's main guitar part in "Garden" is probably my favorite thing about Ten. A really lovely pattern.
Yeah, Garden’s guitar work is great.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 5:15 pm
by guitar_davey
Farmer John wrote:The video from their 2022 show at MSG of them playing Garden second song in the set after Release really rejuvenated my love of the song. It sounded so good.
Yeah, they played Garden second song in Ottawa last year. It was never one of my all-time favourites, but I loved hearing it live for the first time. They nailed it, too.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 5:53 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 6:59 pm
by Jaeti
liebzz wrote:Penny #2 - Breath and SOLAT are both Pearl Jam all-timers. Breath for some reason feels to me like something pre-Ten that bridges the sonic gap between Mother Love Bone and Pearl Jam while SOLAT seems like a natural step forward in vibe towards the sounds they would capture on Vs.
I'm quite on board with this.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 7:00 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 7:38 pm
by epilogue
Jaeti wrote:liebzz wrote:Penny #2 - Breath and SOLAT are both Pearl Jam all-timers. Breath for some reason feels to me like something pre-Ten that bridges the sonic gap between Mother Love Bone and Pearl Jam while SOLAT seems like a natural step forward in vibe towards the sounds they would capture on Vs.
I'm quite on board with this.
Yeah, I think that's right
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 8:28 pm
by Ms Harmless
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 8:29 pm
by Ms Harmless
Vitalogist wrote:epilogue wrote:Leatherhead wrote:Vitalogist wrote:Can we all at least agree that they’re both better than Deep?

Absolutely not.
Wow… I’m surprised to see so much Deep appreciation. I’ve never appreciated that one. Might be the true weak spot on Ten.
Deep is incredible, one of the most engaging PJ drum grooves ever, paired with one of their funkiest riffs
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 8:43 pm
by Kevin Davis
Ms Harmless wrote:Deep is incredible, one of the most engaging PJ drum grooves ever, paired with one of their funkiest riffs
There aren't many PJ tunes in waltz time, the ones that are must be treasured
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 8:46 pm
by Ms Harmless
Kevin Davis wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:Deep is incredible, one of the most engaging PJ drum grooves ever, paired with one of their funkiest riffs
There aren't many PJ tunes in waltz time, the ones that are must be treasured
dang right!
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 8:47 pm
by epilogue
Ms Harmless wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:Deep is incredible, one of the most engaging PJ drum grooves ever, paired with one of their funkiest riffs
There aren't many PJ tunes in waltz time, the ones that are must be treasured
dang right!

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 8:49 pm
by Kevin Davis
*Actually I'm thinking about this and maybe there are more than I thought. Deep, Elderly Woman, Nothingman, Red Mosquito, Rival, Half Full, All or None. What else?
The point about treasuring them does not change.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 8:56 pm
by Kevin Davis
"Low Light," though it has that classic Jeff Ament extra beat in the riff. And then "Yellow Moon" too.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 8:56 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 9:01 pm
by Ms Harmless
a few of those are in 6/8 but not strictly waltzes to me, which are made waltzes by particular emphasis on the 3 and 6 of each bar (in this case on that phat snare)
1-2-*3*
ooon the
4-5-*6*
eeeedge
1-2-*3*
wiiiindow
4-5-*6*
siiiill etc.
on a straight 6/8 groove you'd have one snare on each 4th beat
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 9:03 pm
by Ms Harmless
and traditionally you'd get waltzes with emphasis on 2-3 and 5-6, but that's gonna sound ballroom dance-y
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu November 16, 2023 9:05 pm
by Ms Harmless
I'm gonna stop channeling Harmless now