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Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 7:04 am
by Leatherhead
World Wide Suicide
Severed Hand
Army Reserve
Got Some
Johnny Guitar
Sirens
Who Ever Said
Dance Of The Clairvoyants
Quick Escape
Seven O'clock

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 7:50 am
by taffer
In no particular order:

Cold Confession
Let It Ride
Severed Hand
Johnny Guitar
Force of Nature
My Father's Son
Infallible
Pendulum
Seven o'clock (the ending part)
Get it Back

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 11:03 am
by stip
LetMeSleep wrote:Marker ITS
Parachutes
Big Wave
Army reserve
The Fixer
Let It Ride
Cold Confession
Get It Back
Dance OTC
Again Today
i adore that cover of again today

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 11:36 am
by LetMeSleep
It’s a good un.

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 12:02 pm
by VinylGuy
I love many songs post RA; not sure if I can do a top ten

Top 15 maybe

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 12:59 pm
by wease
Split the difference. Do a top 7.

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 1:19 pm
by liebzz
Wouldn’t the definitive way to do this include that PJ ranker thing we toy with every album cycle?

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 1:21 pm
by stip
LetMeSleep wrote:It’s a good un.
its my favorite pearl jam cover. i dont think its even close

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 2:24 pm
by Mike
Those power pop style songs suit current Eddie really well. That's probably why I also like The Dark so much.

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 2:57 pm
by Val
Can anyone refresh my memory on how the Post Riot Act Money Grab meme came to be?

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 3:06 pm
by Strat
Val wrote:Can anyone refresh my memory on how the Post Riot Act Money Grab meme came to be?
Cynical rmers

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 3:09 pm
by stip
People stopped enjoying the music as much as they used to, and were looking for an explanation.

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 3:18 pm
by Kevin Davis
There is some pretty good discussion earlier in this thread about what "PRAMG" means, what its parameters are, etc. The terminology itself is a flippant, cynical joke, and I think it's intended to be. But the nuances of why people have received it the way they have are pretty interesting, and as reasonable in places as they are flippant in others. Worth a read, IMO.

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 3:27 pm
by stip
I think I made this point somewhere in this thread (taking the PRAMG concept seriously) that the real pivot point if you are thinking about band behavior, rather than music, is Yield

*the first record marketed and discussed as a 'return to form'
*album had commercials advertising it
*ended ticketmaster boycott
*ended video drought (DTE and SVT)

And this is followed by the bootleg program just two years later.

Everything after that pivot is a matter of degree, not kind. I don't have issues with most of these, and am grateful for quite a few. But that's the real change.

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 3:33 pm
by Clem Halibut
Who Ever Said
Life Wasted
Dance Of The Clairvoyants
Quick Escape
Seven O' Clock
Army Reserve
Infallible
Mind Your Manners
Unthought Known
Johnny Guitar
Supersonic
Parachutes
Buckle Up
Comes Than Goes

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 3:35 pm
by digster
I always thought this seemed pretty straightforward:

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The whole idea behind S/T's marketing push is "we're rocking again, we're not going to make weird art records anymore" - which is just kind of marketing gobbledygook, as Binaural and Riot Act aren't really anywhere near the extreme of being weird art records. And it doesn't really matter, as long as the results are good, and while I may think S/T is a step down from the previous records, it's still a good record in hindsight. But being around during the push of that record, it was just clearly a different approach then they'd taken before.

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 3:39 pm
by stip
but this was also part of the push of yield - the first 'return to form' The PRAMG element of this is the adding of motives that have somehow impacted the artistic merit of the music.

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 3:52 pm
by 4/5
WWS
Parachutes
Army Reserve
Come Back
Love Reign O'er Me
The End
Infallible
Pendulum
Dance of the Clairvoyants
Seven O' Clock

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 4:04 pm
by Jaeti
Seven O'Clock rightfully appearing in many top 10s/15s here.

Re: PRAMG Top 10

Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 4:20 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now