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Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:11 pm
by Strat
dimejinky99 wrote:She has three days to come up with a plan b. Vote of no confidence in her being held tomorrow. Anyone’s guess if she can survive that, but she could resign (doubtful) but also labour and Corbyn could fall for a snap election. They could also revoke article 50 and call for a second referendum (they won’t but they really should)

It’s basically a disaster for her almost alone. It’s a massive can of worms exploding out of Pandora’s box. Biggest defeat for a government in their history apparently. She’s been burned by her own party.

Nobody can say for sure what’ll happen. It’s fascinating. Literally a train wreck in slow motion
im pretty certain the biggest defeat for them was America but ok

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:12 pm
by Anders
In parliament.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:12 pm
by Norah
iweartwoshoes wrote:
Strat wrote:So what does this mean, dime? That Brexit wont happen or they will just get a new PM in there that can usher a deal to make it happen?

Either no brexit or really bad brexit.
those were always the only two real options

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:14 pm
by Anders
If only Labour had a proper leader, they could really do something with this. But Corbyn is completely incompetent.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:15 pm
by doug rr
i admit that i need a brexit for dummies book

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:16 pm
by iweartwoshoes
cutuphalfdead wrote:
iweartwoshoes wrote:
Strat wrote:So what does this mean, dime? That Brexit wont happen or they will just get a new PM in there that can usher a deal to make it happen?

Either no brexit or really bad brexit.
those were always the only two real options

true but badder than before.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:16 pm
by Anders
cutuphalfdead wrote:
iweartwoshoes wrote:
Strat wrote:So what does this mean, dime? That Brexit wont happen or they will just get a new PM in there that can usher a deal to make it happen?

Either no brexit or really bad brexit.
those were always the only two real options
Norway is not in the EU and it works fine. But a no deal Brexit would be disastrous.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:23 pm
by Strat
Anders wrote:In parliament.
it was a Joke you fucking monster.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:24 pm
by Norah
doug rr wrote:i admit that i need a brexit for dummies book
watch that Fintan O'Toole video dime posted.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:26 pm
by doug rr
cutuphalfdead wrote:
doug rr wrote:i admit that i need a brexit for dummies book
watch that Fintan O'Toole video dime posted.
bump please

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:31 pm
by dimejinky99
dimejinky99 wrote:This is Fucking amazing. Fintan O Toole on brexit. He knows what he’s talking about and fucking nails the why and the how of it all. Give it ten minutes and you’ll watch the lot


This one.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 8:32 pm
by doug rr
:thumbsup:

Re: Brexit

Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 11:38 pm
by bune

Re: Brexit

Posted: Wed January 16, 2019 9:07 pm
by dimejinky99
Interesting speculation going on about Sinn Fein dropping their abstention policy and actually taking their seats in British Parliament and gettibg involved. It would be throwing a grenade into housefire. Joke.
(Explainer -SF have members who are elected to British Parliament but refuse to take their seats as they’d have to swear an oath to the Queen. They’ve never and probably will never.)
I can’t ever see them taking their seats in Westminster unless the border poll/ Irish reunification vote comes up. They’ll turn up that day for sure.
That’s looking more like a reality now when it never was before.
The DUP are pretty much the biggest obstacle May has right now.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Wed January 16, 2019 10:55 pm
by Norah
No way SF takes seats in Westminster. No fucking way.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Wed January 16, 2019 11:22 pm
by dimejinky99
cutuphalfdead wrote:No way SF takes seats in Westminster. No fucking way.

Not for this shitshow absolutely not. But the Brits want nothing to do with NI even aside from all this. And now the DUP have them over the barrel. if the motion ever gets tabled to have a referendum on NI reunification (aka them washing their hands of it once and for all) and Dublin agreed, you’d definitely see SF turn up.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Wed January 16, 2019 11:26 pm
by 96583UP
would it be kind of like when the trees show up to fight in lord of the rings

Re: Brexit

Posted: Wed January 16, 2019 11:27 pm
by LetMeSleep
Jonathan Pie nailed it. No one is happy with this. People are voting for the lesser of the evils.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Wed January 16, 2019 11:29 pm
by dimejinky99
Haha! Kind of yeah :)


The brilliant thing in all this is Nicola Sturgeon, the Scottish Prime minister has indicated they’ll be having another referendum on Scottish independence from the UK. That’ll happen sooner than the NI one by far but it’ll be the big one that sets it all in motion.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Wed January 16, 2019 11:32 pm
by Norah
dimejinky99 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:No way SF takes seats in Westminster. No fucking way.

Not for this shitshow absolutely not. But the Brits want nothing to do with NI even aside from all this. And now the DUP have them over the barrel. if the motion ever gets tabled to have a referendum on NI reunification (aka them washing their hands of it once and for all) and Dublin agreed, you’d definitely see SF turn up.
Yeah but per the GFA a referendum on Irish reunification won't have anything to do with Westminster.