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Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 9:16 pm
by harmless
Disabled people have a phrase: "Nothing About Us Without Us." We will not be represented or spoken for/about unless we are involved. It's a fine aim, but sadly not one we're likely to see realised in my lifetime.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 9:28 pm
by BurtReynolds
OHMYGADWATISHAPPENININHERRE!

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 9:29 pm
by harmless
Your posts about me were my favourite while I was away, Burt. :thumbsdown:

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 9:31 pm
by BurtReynolds
whitemailed.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:08 pm
by harmless
I mean no offence for what I've said here, guys, and my opinion means nothing. Just postings.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:09 pm
by harmless
I'm just annoyed that people are such stalwart defenders of Colbert that they can't admit he might've made a mistake in the writing.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:31 pm
by Self
What I've learned from this: Don't make fun of Asians and nobody gives a fuck about Native Americans.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:33 pm
by harmless
Self wrote:What I've learned from this: Don't make fun of Asians and nobody gives a fuck about Native Americans.


You didn't know before that nobody gives a fuck about Native Americans? I'm glad Colbert helped you become more aware of their plight.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:36 pm
by doug rr
Self wrote:What I've learned from this: Don't make fun of Asians and nobody gives a fuck about Native Americans.
I care about asians when they're driving behind me

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:36 pm
by harmless
I just wish Native Americans had enough social mobility to make satire about themselves on national TV. I doubt they'd be interested in offending Asians.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:37 pm
by harmless
doug rr wrote:
Self wrote:What I've learned from this: Don't make fun of Asians and nobody gives a fuck about Native Americans.
I care about asians when they're driving behind me
Because satire!

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:37 pm
by doug rr
harmless wrote:I just wish Native Americans had enough social mobility to make satire about themselves on national TV. I doubt they'd be interested in offending Asians.
They're content just drinking and hanging out

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:38 pm
by harmless
doug rr wrote:
harmless wrote:I just wish Native Americans had enough social mobility to make satire about themselves on national TV. I doubt they'd be interested in offending Asians.
They're content just drinking and hanging out
LOL, thank fuck the white guys are driven to do more.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:39 pm
by harmless
We live in deeply racist societies. That's the problem, not a hashtag.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:43 pm
by Self
harmless wrote:I just wish Native Americans had enough social mobility to make satire about themselves on national TV. I doubt they'd be interested in offending Asians.
I doubt most are for intentionally offending Asians. But you're right, Native Americans have no voice.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:51 pm
by Self
harmless wrote:
Self wrote:What I've learned from this: Don't make fun of Asians and nobody gives a fuck about Native Americans.


You didn't know before that nobody gives a fuck about Native Americans? I'm glad Colbert helped you become more aware of their plight.
:?

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:52 pm
by harmless
Self wrote:
harmless wrote:I just wish Native Americans had enough social mobility to make satire about themselves on national TV. I doubt they'd be interested in offending Asians.
I doubt most are for intentionally offending Asians. But you're right, Native Americans have no voice.
Most people aren't about intentionally offending at all, and yet they do, repeatedly. Most prejudice happens by accident, and often because self-advocacy for oppressed people groups (Native Americans and Asians, in this case) is diminished in favour of white people's right to freedom of speech. There have been Native American self-advocating groups campaigning for a change in the Redskins name for ages, and their voices haven't been prioritised by Colbert OR by the rage against Twitter. All that's being defended is Colbert's right to speak. If I was going to suggest something that would have been better than Colbert's joke, it would be either that he didn't joke about it at all, just informed his audience, or perhaps that he gave the job to a Native American guest. I'm not saying that nobody can speak for anyone else, but speaking for others who aren't you does not tend to make for great satire. People have got it wrong before Colbert.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 10:53 pm
by harmless
Self wrote:
harmless wrote:
Self wrote:What I've learned from this: Don't make fun of Asians and nobody gives a fuck about Native Americans.


You didn't know before that nobody gives a fuck about Native Americans? I'm glad Colbert helped you become more aware of their plight.
:?
A flippant statement can get a flippant response.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 11:16 pm
by Self
harmless wrote:I'm not saying that nobody can speak for anyone else, but speaking for others who aren't you does not tend to make for great satire.
But, in this case it did. When did you find out the Washington Redskins existed? Dan Snyder? Instead you choose to make a stink about Colbert. Really? A joke foundation? Because Asians are so oppressed in America?

So, should I not laugh when a comic puts on his white guy voice and pokes fun at my stereotypical behavior? I should be offended because I have no rhythm and I can't dance? Or, is that okay because I'm white and I hold the keys to the fucking planet? Everything just falls out of the fucking sky, for me.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Wed April 02, 2014 11:36 pm
by Jorge
That feeling when you think everybody in the thread is wrong.

This is how I imagine Heathen feels in OB all the time.