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Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:14 pm
by @SkitchP
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Lament wrote:I'm off to work. I sent chud a proxy.

Happy drafting! We may have this done sometime tomorrow!
Uh no you didn't.

Also, nice job #BRL

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:15 pm
by numbers
Lol. It was madness when BRL would be on the clock for hours, come in, post a bad joke, not pick someone, and then disappear again.

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - TBAMTS

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:16 pm
by philpritchard
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:Chuck Knoblauch. How the hell is he still available?

Because everyone else had second baseman already, and Baerga and Utley were reaches.
I mean... I know WHY, I'm just surprised because I think he's better than most people's starters.

He's about the same. The Sanberg/Biggio/Boone/Kent/Alomar/Knoblach best seasons of that era are all pretty close in terms of oWAR. Baerga being a switch hitter helps. Utley? That one I didnt get with Knoblach still on the board didnt make sense.
I guess that's fair... there's definitely a good group of 2B in the same range. I just happened to have Knoblauch at the top of the group (with Biggio by himself in a tier above).

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - TBAMTS

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:16 pm
by CopperTom
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:Chuck Knoblauch. How the hell is he still available?

Because everyone else had second baseman already, and Baerga and Utley were reaches.
I mean... I know WHY, I'm just surprised because I think he's better than most people's starters.

He's about the same. The Sanberg/Biggio/Boone/Kent/Alomar/Knoblach best seasons of that era are all pretty close in terms of oWAR. Baerga being a switch hitter helps. Utley? That one I didnt get with Knoblach still on the board didnt make sense.
Biggio is $500,000 better than any other 2B .

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - TBAMTS

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:18 pm
by @SkitchP
CopperTom wrote:Biggio is $500,000 better than any other 2B .

yep. Although i would caution you against going too much by WhatIf $ figures. They dont always translate into on field sim success.

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:21 pm
by numbers
The first few times we did this I would just kind of wing it with the draft, and then I started strategizing and checking WAR for everyone. I was much more successful when winging it, so I'm back to that this time.

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:23 pm
by @SkitchP
Chud takes Ozzie Smith, completing his shitty middle infield.

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - TBAMTS

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:23 pm
by CopperTom
@SkitchP wrote:
CopperTom wrote:Biggio is $500,000 better than any other 2B .

yep. Although i would caution you against going too much by WhatIf $ figures. They dont always translate into on field sim success.
97 Biggio is the best 2B season of that span by any measure.

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:23 pm
by @SkitchP
Argo is up.

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - TBAMTS

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:24 pm
by @SkitchP
CopperTom wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
CopperTom wrote:Biggio is $500,000 better than any other 2B .

yep. Although i would caution you against going too much by WhatIf $ figures. They dont always translate into on field sim success.
97 Biggio is the best 2B season of that span by any measure.

Well, except oWAR (alomar and boone both have better oWAR in that span)

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:25 pm
by @SkitchP
and Knoblach is equal (alomar 7.7, Boone 7.6, Knoblach and Biggio 7.5)

So all very close.

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:33 pm
by CopperTom
I regret nothing.

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:33 pm
by @SkitchP
CopperTom wrote:I regret nothing.

Nor should you. Biggio would have been my first choice as well.

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:34 pm
by @SkitchP
Id also like to point out how much it sucks that this tournament ends the year before the 2006 Tigers.

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:35 pm
by CopperTom
@SkitchP wrote:Id also like to point out how much it sucks that this tournament ends the year before the 2006 Tigers.
Anything that spans 1991 to 2005 is perfect.

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 12:37 am
by The Argonaut
Doug Jones

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 12:41 am
by numbers
Troy Glaus
Jeff Reardon

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 12:45 am
by The Argonaut
Carl Crawford

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:14 am
by Norah
Big Sexy Bartolo Colon

Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Round 17 - skitch

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:16 am
by @SkitchP
Howard Johnson