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durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:Love the trailer. Watched it 8 times already. When Rey is crying, it looks like:

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she is crying over Chewy's body. Have y'all noticed that? Thoughts?

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Saw that. I dont want to talk about that . There's also a jacket, maybe covering chewie's face? Maybe Han's? Poe's?Also, when they appear to be surrending, cheiwe has a bandage on his arm so maybe he doesnt die!

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As weird as it sounds, Chewie might be the hardest death I could imagine in this film. If anyone's going to die... please don't let it be Chewie...

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Chewie was also the first to eat it in the EU as well.

Simple Torture wrote:There's lots of speculation that Han/Leia are so somber in this trailer because Kylo Ren is their son. It's been revealed officially that that's not his real name (sort of like a title like "Darth Vader"), so chances are his name/identity has meaning. It'd also be slightly lifting from the EU. I'm hoping not...I'm already skeptical about the new superweapon thing, and I don't think I could handle a hidden identity.

I'm thinking the Rey is Luke's kid, and Kylo has some connection to the Skywalker's as well.

I'm definitely skeptical of the "super weapon" thing. I hope it's not another Death Star. Looks like we may see it in action (the massive explosion in the forrest).

darth_vedder wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:There's lots of speculation that Han/Leia are so somber in this trailer because Kylo Ren is their son. It's been revealed officially that that's not his real name (sort of like a title like "Darth Vader"), so chances are his name/identity has meaning. It'd also be slightly lifting from the EU. I'm hoping not...I'm already skeptical about the new superweapon thing, and I don't think I could handle a hidden identity.

I'm thinking the Rey is Luke's kid, and Kylo has some connection to the Skywalker's as well.

I'm definitely skeptical of the "super weapon" thing. I hope it's not another Death Star. Looks like we may see it in action (the massive explosion in the forrest).

you can see the super weapon during a shot of the x wings on that snow planet. By all accounts "starkiller" is an ice planet and they built some sort of super weapon through the core of it. So, yea, it's kind of like the death star but its a planet as it is

There are a lot of connections to the characters that need to be explained, and a lot of paths that need crossing, and I'm skeptical that they can do it all coherently. Rey obviously starts with BB-8, and she meets Finn, and then they meet Han and Chewie? Where does Poe come in, and how does he get BB-8 as an astromech droid?

Did we talk about the run time yet? 2 hrs and 26 minutes.

oh man if Chewie dies I'm OUT

and, who will answer our questions about the midi-chlorians???!!!

Strat wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:There's lots of speculation that Han/Leia are so somber in this trailer because Kylo Ren is their son. It's been revealed officially that that's not his real name (sort of like a title like "Darth Vader"), so chances are his name/identity has meaning. It'd also be slightly lifting from the EU. I'm hoping not...I'm already skeptical about the new superweapon thing, and I don't think I could handle a hidden identity.

I'm thinking the Rey is Luke's kid, and Kylo has some connection to the Skywalker's as well.

I'm definitely skeptical of the "super weapon" thing. I hope it's not another Death Star. Looks like we may see it in action (the massive explosion in the forrest).

you can see the super weapon during a shot of the x wings on that snow planet. By all accounts "starkiller" is an ice planet and they built some sort of super weapon through the core of it. So, yea, it's kind of like the death star but its a planet as it is

Simple Torture wrote:There are a lot of connections to the characters that need to be explained, and a lot of paths that need crossing, and I'm skeptical that they can do it all coherently. Rey obviously starts with BB-8, and she meets Finn, and then they meet Han and Chewie? Where does Poe come in, and how does he get BB-8 as an astromech droid?

Did we talk about the run time yet? 2 hrs and 26 minutes.

A New Hope was similar. Lots of paths needed crossing, lots of adventures, fuck Obi Wan dies, they end up with a fleet of rebels, take down the death star.

It can be done.

Simple Torture wrote:There's lots of speculation that Han/Leia are so somber in this trailer because Kylo Ren is their son. It's been revealed officially that that's not his real name (sort of like a title like "Darth Vader"), so chances are his name/identity has meaning. It'd also be slightly lifting from the EU. I'm hoping not...I'm already skeptical about the new superweapon thing, and I don't think I could handle a hidden identity.

Yeah, I don't know how I feel about a super weapon, on the surface. We'll see how that actually plays out. A hidden identity plotline wouldn't bug me, though. In fact, I 100% expect it.

Simple Torture wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:Love the trailer. Watched it 8 times already. When Rey is crying, it looks like:

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she is crying over Chewy's body. Have y'all noticed that? Thoughts?

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Saw that. I dont want to talk about that . There's also a jacket, maybe covering chewie's face? Maybe Han's? Poe's?Also, when they appear to be surrending, cheiwe has a bandage on his arm so maybe he doesnt die!

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As weird as it sounds, Chewie might be the hardest death I could imagine in this film. If anyone's going to die... please don't let it be Chewie...

Spoiler: show

Chewie was also the first to eat it in the EU as well.

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Strat wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:There are a lot of connections to the characters that need to be explained, and a lot of paths that need crossing, and I'm skeptical that they can do it all coherently. Rey obviously starts with BB-8, and she meets Finn, and then they meet Han and Chewie? Where does Poe come in, and how does he get BB-8 as an astromech droid?

Did we talk about the run time yet? 2 hrs and 26 minutes.

A New Hope was similar. Lots of paths needed crossing, lots of adventures, fuck Obi Wan dies, they end up with a fleet of rebels, take down the death star.

It can be done.

Hollywood has always said the secret to making a successful sequel is: make the same movie but different.

Strat wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

turned2black wrote:The scene with the Darth's crushed helmet kinda made me cringe. Hokey as fuck and points to what I dislike about JJ. So hamfisted.

I can kinda get on board with this, too. If that character is some sort of relic collector then context could help that shot a lot.

But let's also not act like there weren't plenty of hamfisted moments in the OT as well.

Kylo Ren is to Vader as what LV is to Kanye

star wars fur yeah i'm rockin chewbacca

What if

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kylo ren and Rey are twins, Han and leias kids, somehow they thought lost, Ren figures out his grandfather was Vader and becomes obsessed and starts the first order, taking loads of divisions of troops from his mothers army(she'd be a commander of some sort of leader of the resistance) to try to re-establish the empire in his grandfathers image and Han and leia are heartbroken cos they find out its him and what he's doing and Luke is the only one that can stop him so they set out to find him?

dimejinky99 wrote:

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What if kylo ren and Rey are twins, Han and leias kids, somehow they thought lost, Ren figures out his grandfather was Vader and becomes obsessed and starts the first order, taking loads of divisions of troops from his mothers army(she'd be a commander of some sort of leader of the resistance) to try to re-establish the empire in his grandfathers image and Han and leia are heartbroken cos they find out its him and what he's doing and Luke is the only one that can stop him so they set out to find him?

I love this. Could explain that scene with Poe Dameron and Kylo.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:There are a lot of connections to the characters that need to be explained, and a lot of paths that need crossing, and I'm skeptical that they can do it all coherently. Rey obviously starts with BB-8, and she meets Finn, and then they meet Han and Chewie? Where does Poe come in, and how does he get BB-8 as an astromech droid?

Did we talk about the run time yet? 2 hrs and 26 minutes.

A New Hope was similar. Lots of paths needed crossing, lots of adventures, fuck Obi Wan dies, they end up with a fleet of rebels, take down the death star.

It can be done.

Hollywood has always said the secret to making a successful sequel is: make the same movie but different.

Start with a miserable kid on a shitty desert planet.
After a space battle something falls from the sky that contains a character of some sort.
Journey/learning sequence where the kid discovers that they have a familial connection to something bigger and more significant.
A bad guy wearing black shows up.
Someone important to the kid dies at a pivotal moment.
Then they all nut up blow up a planet.

Yeah...it does have the potential to be a pretty literal mirror.

Also, that shot of Leia in Hans' arms looking all sad, doesn't bode well for Chewie.

Strat wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

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What if kylo ren and Rey are twins, Han and leias kids, somehow they thought lost, Ren figures out his grandfather was Vader and becomes obsessed and starts the first order, taking loads of divisions of troops from his mothers army(she'd be a commander of some sort of leader of the resistance) to try to re-establish the empire in his grandfathers image and Han and leia are heartbroken cos they find out its him and what he's doing and Luke is the only one that can stop him so they set out to find him?

I love this. Could explain that scene with Poe Dameron and Kylo.

This idea bothers me. I'd rather they were their own characters with their own motivations, not, "You gotta save the universe b/c it's your birthright!" They've already given Poe that sort of backstory in the comics, so, as they say, I've got a bad feeling about this. Finn intrigues me because he's so obviously a blank slate.

McParadigm wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:There are a lot of connections to the characters that need to be explained, and a lot of paths that need crossing, and I'm skeptical that they can do it all coherently. Rey obviously starts with BB-8, and she meets Finn, and then they meet Han and Chewie? Where does Poe come in, and how does he get BB-8 as an astromech droid?

Did we talk about the run time yet? 2 hrs and 26 minutes.

A New Hope was similar. Lots of paths needed crossing, lots of adventures, fuck Obi Wan dies, they end up with a fleet of rebels, take down the death star.

It can be done.

Hollywood has always said the secret to making a successful sequel is: make the same movie but different.

Start with a miserable kid on a shitty desert planet.
After a space battle something falls from the sky that contains a character of some sort.
Journey/learning sequence where the kid discovers that they have a familial connection to something bigger and more significant.
A bad guy wearing black shows up.
Someone important to the kid dies at a pivotal moment.
Then they all nut up blow up a planet.

Yeah...it does have the potential to be a pretty literal mirror.

But don't blame JJ Abrams. It's Joseph Campbell 101.

Simple Torture wrote:

Strat wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

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What if kylo ren and Rey are twins, Han and leias kids, somehow they thought lost, Ren figures out his grandfather was Vader and becomes obsessed and starts the first order, taking loads of divisions of troops from his mothers army(she'd be a commander of some sort of leader of the resistance) to try to re-establish the empire in his grandfathers image and Han and leia are heartbroken cos they find out its him and what he's doing and Luke is the only one that can stop him so they set out to find him?

I love this. Could explain that scene with Poe Dameron and Kylo.

This idea bothers me. I'd rather they were their own characters with their own motivations, not, "You gotta save the universe b/c it's your birthright!" They've already given Poe that sort of backstory in the comics, so, as they say, I've got a bad feeling about this. Finn intrigues me because he's so obviously a blank slate.

I wouldnt get too excited then because I think ultimately Star Wars is about the Skywalker journey.

I just read on another site, have no idea how credible or where it comes from originally but (I'll spoiler in case, but this is reeeeeally minor shit; I'm avoiding spoilers and I don't care about this at all)

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So, all the stormtroopers of the First Order are light saber trained? That explains Finn a lot more. Should I be bothered by non-Jedi with sabers? ... I'm just not sure.