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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 3:41 pm
by Strat
durdencommatyler wrote:I just read on another site, have no idea how credible or where it comes from originally but (I'll spoiler in case, but this is reeeeeally minor shit; I'm avoiding spoilers and I don't care about this at all)
Spoiler: show
So, all the stormtroopers of the First Order are light saber trained? That explains Finn a lot more. Should I be bothered by non-Jedi with sabers? ... I'm just not sure.
Spoiler: show
They sucked with blasters so it makes sense they are trying something new?lol

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 3:46 pm
by Simple Torture
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I just read on another site, have no idea how credible or where it comes from originally but (I'll spoiler in case, but this is reeeeeally minor shit; I'm avoiding spoilers and I don't care about this at all)
Spoiler: show
So, all the stormtroopers of the First Order are light saber trained? That explains Finn a lot more. Should I be bothered by non-Jedi with sabers? ... I'm just not sure.
Spoiler: show
They sucked with blasters so it makes sense they are trying something new?lol
Spoiler: show
Some officially-released material references something called the "Knights of Ren," which might be separate from the First Order stormtroopers.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 3:47 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Here's a breakdown of the trailer, shot-by-shot.

http://www.ew.com/gallery/star-wars-the ... ns-trailer

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 3:48 pm
by Simple Torture
Strat wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:What if kylo ren and Rey are twins, Han and leias kids, somehow they thought lost, Ren figures out his grandfather was Vader and becomes obsessed and starts the first order, taking loads of divisions of troops from his mothers army(she'd be a commander of some sort of leader of the resistance) to try to re-establish the empire in his grandfathers image and Han and leia are heartbroken cos they find out its him and what he's doing and Luke is the only one that can stop him so they set out to find him?
I love this. Could explain that scene with Poe Dameron and Kylo.
This idea bothers me. I'd rather they were their own characters with their own motivations, not, "You gotta save the universe b/c it's your birthright!" They've already given Poe that sort of backstory in the comics, so, as they say, I've got a bad feeling about this. Finn intrigues me because he's so obviously a blank slate.
I wouldnt get too excited then because I think ultimately Star Wars is about the Skywalker journey.
Blegh, I hate that line. There's so much going on in Star Wars that has nothing to do with the Skywalkers; just because Luke was the de-facto protagonist of the first trilogy doesn't mean we've gotta be bogged down in it all again.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 3:48 pm
by Strat
Simple Torture wrote:
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I just read on another site, have no idea how credible or where it comes from originally but (I'll spoiler in case, but this is reeeeeally minor shit; I'm avoiding spoilers and I don't care about this at all)
Spoiler: show
So, all the stormtroopers of the First Order are light saber trained? That explains Finn a lot more. Should I be bothered by non-Jedi with sabers? ... I'm just not sure.
Spoiler: show
They sucked with blasters so it makes sense they are trying something new?lol
Spoiler: show
Some officially-released material references something called the "Knights of Ren," which might be separate from the First Order stormtroopers.
You can actually see them in that shot with Kylo where its raining....

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 3:49 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Also, pretty cool to see Captain Phasma

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 3:53 pm
by epilogue
Simple Torture wrote:
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I just read on another site, have no idea how credible or where it comes from originally but (I'll spoiler in case, but this is reeeeeally minor shit; I'm avoiding spoilers and I don't care about this at all)
Spoiler: show
So, all the stormtroopers of the First Order are light saber trained? That explains Finn a lot more. Should I be bothered by non-Jedi with sabers? ... I'm just not sure.
Spoiler: show
They sucked with blasters so it makes sense they are trying something new?lol
Spoiler: show
Some officially-released material references something called the "Knights of Ren," which might be separate from the First Order stormtroopers.
The Knights of Ren are definitely a different thing. We see them (and some serious carnage) in this new trailer.

I guess what I'm getting at is... why does Finn have a lightsaber all the time?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 3:54 pm
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Also, pretty cool to see Captain Phasma
I don't know who that is. Should I?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 3:57 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
durdencommatyler wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Also, pretty cool to see Captain Phasma
I don't know who that is. Should I?
Look her up. Captain Phasma might be this trilogy's General Grievous for me.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 3:58 pm
by Simple Torture
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Also, pretty cool to see Captain Phasma
I don't know who that is. Should I?
Look her up. Captain Phasma might be this trilogy's General Grievous for me.
So the absolute best character of all?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 3:58 pm
by McParadigm
Yeah what does that mean?

Moustache twirler?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 4:12 pm
by McParadigm
Looks cool and does nothing?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 4:13 pm
by McParadigm
Total sucker who gets played and never picks up on it?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 4:14 pm
by McParadigm
'Cartoon.'

I bet that's it.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 4:15 pm
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Also, pretty cool to see Captain Phasma
I don't know who that is. Should I?
Look her up. Captain Phasma might be this trilogy's General Grievous for me.
Brienne of Tarth! :bammer:

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 4:15 pm
by epilogue
Stop being a jerk to Ruddo, McP.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 4:17 pm
by Norah
E.H. Ruddock wrote:oh man if Chewie dies I'm OUT
Seriously.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 4:17 pm
by Strat
Simple Torture wrote:
Strat wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Spoiler: show
What if kylo ren and Rey are twins, Han and leias kids, somehow they thought lost, Ren figures out his grandfather was Vader and becomes obsessed and starts the first order, taking loads of divisions of troops from his mothers army(she'd be a commander of some sort of leader of the resistance) to try to re-establish the empire in his grandfathers image and Han and leia are heartbroken cos they find out its him and what he's doing and Luke is the only one that can stop him so they set out to find him?
I love this. Could explain that scene with Poe Dameron and Kylo.
This idea bothers me. I'd rather they were their own characters with their own motivations, not, "You gotta save the universe b/c it's your birthright!" They've already given Poe that sort of backstory in the comics, so, as they say, I've got a bad feeling about this. Finn intrigues me because he's so obviously a blank slate.
I wouldnt get too excited then because I think ultimately Star Wars is about the Skywalker journey.
Blegh, I hate that line. There's so much going on in Star Wars that has nothing to do with the Skywalkers; just because Luke was the de-facto protagonist of the first trilogy doesn't mean we've gotta be bogged down in it all again.
Thus the spin offs

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 4:21 pm
by McParadigm
cutuphalfdead wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:oh man if Chewie dies I'm OUT
Seriously.
What if Han is on a talk show reminiscing about the past, though? And Chewie shows up, Han yells at him for sleeping with Leia, and then blasts him? Like, Tarantino style? And what if all the younger Solos have mysteriously hairy arms? And what if there's an explicit flashback? And in the flashback, you can see Luke hiding in the closet and beating off while he watches? And what if that's why he's in seclusion?

You're really not thinking this through friend.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Tue October 20, 2015 4:22 pm
by McParadigm
We can work Grievous in too if it helps