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Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 8:25 am
by Ms Harmless
epilogue wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:"elevated horror" movies tend to be my favourite horror movies, but what people have to understand is that "elevated horror" stories have existed since Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein; horror is founded upon social commentary
Exactly!
It's the social commentary that I feel like I'm missing from Weapons. Which is why I feel like an idiot.
I have a theory, but it'll be a while till I can see it to confirm; it seems to me that social commentary is possible to interpret in Weapons but not necessary, which is OK if I enjoy the film
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 3:22 pm
by tommctommy
Watched ET for the first time last night. Wonderful. Was Drew Barrymore the cutest kid of all time?
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 3:58 pm
by VinylGuy
Ms Harmless wrote:"elevated horror" movies tend to be my favourite horror movies, but what people have to understand is that "elevated horror" stories have existed since Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein; horror is founded upon social commentary
im going to tattoo this
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 3:58 pm
by VinylGuy
epilogue wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:"elevated horror" movies tend to be my favourite horror movies, but what people have to understand is that "elevated horror" stories have existed since Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein; horror is founded upon social commentary
Exactly!
It's the social commentary that I feel like I'm missing from Weapons. Which is why I feel like an idiot.
this is a good read joe
https://www.avclub.com/america-weaponiz ... n-violence
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 6:51 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:epilogue wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:"elevated horror" movies tend to be my favourite horror movies, but what people have to understand is that "elevated horror" stories have existed since Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein; horror is founded upon social commentary
Exactly!
It's the social commentary that I feel like I'm missing from Weapons. Which is why I feel like an idiot.
this is a good read joe
https://www.avclub.com/america-weaponiz ... n-violence
I appreciate this. But I have a lot of gripes with it, too. I don't think the author's premise hangs together very well given the text of the film. It's a good *idea* but I don't think the film does much to back it up, at large. It does help with some of the nuance and nitpicks that I had though. So, that's cool.
I kinda wonder if the people who liked the movie are smarter than the guy who made it.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 7:22 pm
by VinylGuy
I really cant follow this when i just saw you were praising The Bear´s last season.
I still love ya
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 7:39 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:I really cant follow this when i just saw you were praising The Bear´s last season.
I still love ya

Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 9:46 pm
by Ms Harmless
epilogue wrote:VinylGuy wrote:epilogue wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:"elevated horror" movies tend to be my favourite horror movies, but what people have to understand is that "elevated horror" stories have existed since Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein; horror is founded upon social commentary
Exactly!
It's the social commentary that I feel like I'm missing from Weapons. Which is why I feel like an idiot.
this is a good read joe
https://www.avclub.com/america-weaponiz ... n-violence
I appreciate this. But I have a lot of gripes with it, too. I don't think the author's premise hangs together very well given the text of the film. It's a good *idea* but I don't think the film does much to back it up, at large. It does help with some of the nuance and nitpicks that I had though. So, that's cool.
I kinda wonder if the people who liked the movie are smarter than the guy who made it.
how do you feel about David Lynch if it's important to you that certain readings line up with authorial intention? that's virtually not possible with most of Lynch; personally I think part of good storytelling is giving people a range of interpretive possibilities; if the range is limitless then you've done a bad job but arguably it's just as bad if you've spoonfed the "right" meaning
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 9:48 pm
by Ms Harmless
also I'm smarter than most guys who make movies, that's no deal-breaker
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 9:53 pm
by epilogue
Ms Harmless wrote:epilogue wrote:VinylGuy wrote:epilogue wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:"elevated horror" movies tend to be my favourite horror movies, but what people have to understand is that "elevated horror" stories have existed since Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein; horror is founded upon social commentary
Exactly!
It's the social commentary that I feel like I'm missing from Weapons. Which is why I feel like an idiot.
this is a good read joe
https://www.avclub.com/america-weaponiz ... n-violence
I appreciate this. But I have a lot of gripes with it, too. I don't think the author's premise hangs together very well given the text of the film. It's a good *idea* but I don't think the film does much to back it up, at large. It does help with some of the nuance and nitpicks that I had though. So, that's cool.
I kinda wonder if the people who liked the movie are smarter than the guy who made it.
how do you feel about David Lynch if it's important to you that certain readings line up with authorial intention? that's virtually not possible with most of Lynch; personally I think part of good storytelling is giving people a range of interpretive possibilities; if the range is limitless then you've done a bad job but arguably it's just as bad if you've spoonfed the "right" meaning
I adore David Lynch. He's one of my all time favorite film makers. Probably #1.
Authorial intention isn't all that meaningful to me outside of my own personal understanding. I like to know where a person is coming from, but it doesn't really weigh on how I receive a given piece of art, necessarily.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 9:59 pm
by tommctommy
Watching Fight or Flight. This things a blast.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 10:55 pm
by Ms Harmless
epilogue wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:epilogue wrote:VinylGuy wrote:epilogue wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:"elevated horror" movies tend to be my favourite horror movies, but what people have to understand is that "elevated horror" stories have existed since Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein; horror is founded upon social commentary
Exactly!
It's the social commentary that I feel like I'm missing from Weapons. Which is why I feel like an idiot.
this is a good read joe
https://www.avclub.com/america-weaponiz ... n-violence
I appreciate this. But I have a lot of gripes with it, too. I don't think the author's premise hangs together very well given the text of the film. It's a good *idea* but I don't think the film does much to back it up, at large. It does help with some of the nuance and nitpicks that I had though. So, that's cool.
I kinda wonder if the people who liked the movie are smarter than the guy who made it.
how do you feel about David Lynch if it's important to you that certain readings line up with authorial intention? that's virtually not possible with most of Lynch; personally I think part of good storytelling is giving people a range of interpretive possibilities; if the range is limitless then you've done a bad job but arguably it's just as bad if you've spoonfed the "right" meaning
I adore David Lynch. He's one of my all time favorite film makers. Probably #1.
Authorial intention isn't all that meaningful to me outside of my own personal understanding. I like to know where a person is coming from, but it doesn't really weigh on how I receive a given piece of art, necessarily.
I look forward to seeing Weapons then coming in here with my trans and queer-centric readings of it; if my hunches are correct it's a doosie
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Fri August 22, 2025 11:50 pm
by epilogue
Ms Harmless wrote:epilogue wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:epilogue wrote:VinylGuy wrote:epilogue wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:"elevated horror" movies tend to be my favourite horror movies, but what people have to understand is that "elevated horror" stories have existed since Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein; horror is founded upon social commentary
Exactly!
It's the social commentary that I feel like I'm missing from Weapons. Which is why I feel like an idiot.
this is a good read joe
https://www.avclub.com/america-weaponiz ... n-violence
I appreciate this. But I have a lot of gripes with it, too. I don't think the author's premise hangs together very well given the text of the film. It's a good *idea* but I don't think the film does much to back it up, at large. It does help with some of the nuance and nitpicks that I had though. So, that's cool.
I kinda wonder if the people who liked the movie are smarter than the guy who made it.
how do you feel about David Lynch if it's important to you that certain readings line up with authorial intention? that's virtually not possible with most of Lynch; personally I think part of good storytelling is giving people a range of interpretive possibilities; if the range is limitless then you've done a bad job but arguably it's just as bad if you've spoonfed the "right" meaning
I adore David Lynch. He's one of my all time favorite film makers. Probably #1.
Authorial intention isn't all that meaningful to me outside of my own personal understanding. I like to know where a person is coming from, but it doesn't really weigh on how I receive a given piece of art, necessarily.
I look forward to seeing Weapons then coming in here with my trans and queer-centric readings of it; if my hunches are correct it's a doosie
I can't wait to read that review!
Like I said, I feel like I just fully missed something as far as the political/social commentary goes. I'm looking for that insight. I can't wait to hear/read you take. I feel like that will illuminate this thing for me, big time.

Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Sat August 23, 2025 12:52 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
Valkyrie was good. Still wish someone other than Cruise was in the role. Nice to see true Nazi heroes though. Great group of guys.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Sat August 23, 2025 9:58 pm
by BurtReynolds
Team lv and dtc on Weapons, though they are coming at it from different directions, I agree with both. I don't really like these movies.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Sat August 23, 2025 10:34 pm
by tree_
Booooo. Boo.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Sat August 23, 2025 10:51 pm
by The Argonaut
I saw Honey, Don't. It's really too bad this movie is kind of boring. Margaret Qualley is great, Chris Evans is great, I think back on some moments with happiness, I don't think was actively bored while watching it, but boring really kind of is the best word for it. Just not enough there, unfortunately. maybe too random and no follow-through on some of its better elements or bigger themes. Feels a bit empty
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Sat August 23, 2025 11:27 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Would those two fucking idiot brothers just work together again
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Sun August 24, 2025 12:02 am
by The Argonaut
ethan has to make one more gay movie with his wife first
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Sun August 24, 2025 11:14 pm
by The Argonaut
Weapons was really good. Jorge used the word "fun" but I don't think that's the right word. It's often funny and I was always on the edge of my seat but I wouldn't say I was ever having fun