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Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Sun December 13, 2015 8:06 pm
by verb_to_trust
It may have been fair at the time but now hes on a team where he can be on the floor with 4 other guys and be the lowest paid player. But hes never had to buy mom a house so he doesnt care.

I heard Kidd said hes this generations Jordan. Hes only 3 years younger than lebron....hes going to have to pass him first. Hopefully 9 more losses until the talking heads can move on to the next stupid topic.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Sun December 13, 2015 9:14 pm
by spike
verb_to_trust wrote:It may have been fair at the time but now hes on a team where he can be on the floor with 4 other guys and be the lowest paid player. But hes never had to buy mom a house so he doesnt care.

I heard Kidd said hes this generations Jordan. Hes only 3 years younger than lebron....hes going to have to pass him first. Hopefully 9 more losses until the talking heads can move on to the next stupid topic.
why is it a stupid topic? just because they maybe eclipse the bulls' record?

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Sun December 13, 2015 10:34 pm
by Monkey_Driven
verb_to_trust wrote:It may have been fair at the time but now hes on a team where he can be on the floor with 4 other guys and be the lowest paid player. But hes never had to buy mom a house so he doesnt care.

I heard Kidd said hes this generations Jordan. Hes only 3 years younger than lebron....hes going to have to pass him first. Hopefully 9 more losses until the talking heads can move on to the next stupid topic.
Scottie Pippen wasn't paid crap for those 90's Bulls teams either. Don't really see why you are criticizing Curry for not taking more money when no other team was offering him more at the time. The Warriors drafted very well and have nailed key trades/free agents.

I think the Jordan comparison is kind of silly but there has never been a player like Curry in league history (3 point shooting, efficiency, with the passing/ballhandling skills). It's tough to debate that.

If the talking heads bother so much, why do you continue to watch? I usually agree with you about them focusing too intensely on certain events/topics but this was this streak is almost unprecedented.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Sun December 13, 2015 11:51 pm
by verb_to_trust
spike wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:It may have been fair at the time but now hes on a team where he can be on the floor with 4 other guys and be the lowest paid player. But hes never had to buy mom a house so he doesnt care.

I heard Kidd said hes this generations Jordan. Hes only 3 years younger than lebron....hes going to have to pass him first. Hopefully 9 more losses until the talking heads can move on to the next stupid topic.
why is it a stupid topic? just because they maybe eclipse the bulls' record?
Thats exactly why

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Sun December 13, 2015 11:53 pm
by verb_to_trust
You better believe Scottie wanted to get paid and bitched about it along the way. I just find it...uh...unique. ..that the guy who should be the highest paid player in the Nba is cool with making less than a hatchet man like Andrew fucking Bogut. Benefits the warriors greatly.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Sun December 13, 2015 11:58 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
just shows how unselfish he is, unlike jordan...i wish more players had that mindset

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 12:05 am
by verb_to_trust
Someone who doesnt stand up for themselves?

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 12:08 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
verb_to_trust wrote:Someone who doesnt stand up for themselves?
do you deserve to make more than you do at your job?

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 1:02 am
by verb_to_trust
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Someone who doesnt stand up for themselves?
do you deserve to make more than you do at your job?
Probably. And if I was given management level job duties and excelling as well as could possibly be expected I wouldnt be happy if I werent fairly compensated.

Jimmy Butler is a good example of what im talking about. He came off a relatively poor shooting year with a rep as a pretty good but not close to all star level player. He was offered a 'fair' contract by the Bulls and didnt take it. Now Jimmy is a max contract all star who is one of the best two way players in the game.

Jimmy Bulter was abandoned by his mother as a child. Steph had to choose between lexus and mercedes on his super sweet 16.

I think the only thing that will get Steph bitching about his contract is if they start losing.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 1:19 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
verb_to_trust wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Someone who doesnt stand up for themselves?
do you deserve to make more than you do at your job?
Probably. And if I was given management level job duties and excelling as well as could possibly be expected I wouldnt be happy if I werent fairly compensated.

Jimmy Butler is a good example of what im talking about. He came off a relatively poor shooting year with a rep as a pretty good but not close to all star level player. He was offered a 'fair' contract by the Bulls and didnt take it. Now Jimmy is a max contract all star who is one of the best two way players in the game.

Jimmy Bulter was abandoned by his mother as a child. Steph had to choose between lexus and mercedes on his super sweet 16.

I think the only thing that will get Steph bitching about his contract is if they start losing.
have you demanded a raise due to your stellar performance?

if curry had a huge salary and the warriors couldn't afford the role players need to be successful, you'd be all over him...your jealousy is unattractive, verb

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 1:26 am
by verb_to_trust
I dont think ive sided with the rich ass owners in any of these types of scenerios. Go out and get paid I say.

Imagine if the NBA was set up like English soccer? No bullshit, just ball out and and get as much money as you can. Keep going until someone decides to stop increasing your wage.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 1:36 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
so was lebron wrong to take less money in miami?

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 2:15 am
by verb_to_trust
He was the highest paid player on the team (tied with Bosh). The situation in Miami was about as fair as it gets really. Wade took a slight paycut during the big 3 years but is back to being overpaid again.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 2:21 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
but your previous post encouraged balling out and getting as much money as one can...he clearly didn't do that

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 2:22 am
by verb_to_trust
If he played soccer in Europe....

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 2:24 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
verb_to_trust wrote:If he played soccer in Europe....
go out and get paid you say

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 2:28 am
by verb_to_trust
Yeah....and there is a cap in the Nba. Youre failing at this lenny. Its not working.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 2:32 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
verb_to_trust wrote:Yeah....and there is a cap in the Nba. Youre failing at this lenny. Its not working.
cap or not, lebron clearly took less money to be on a winning team...while curry's situation is a little different, he knows by making less the team can afford to build a winning squadron...i don't know the details of bogut's contract, but i'm sure he's getting paid a lot more than he's worth and when his contract ends they likely will be able to give curry more money...but it's not a concern now

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 2:41 am
by verb_to_trust
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Yeah....and there is a cap in the Nba. Youre failing at this lenny. Its not working.
cap or not, lebron clearly took less money to be on a winning team...
Yeah, he took less money because there is a cap. If the Miami heat were say...Manchester City, they would have just paid those three guys whatever the market demanded. My hypothetical musing about what players could make if there was no cap has nothing to do with the original conversation though len. Nice try.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 14, 2015 2:58 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
verb_to_trust wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Yeah....and there is a cap in the Nba. Youre failing at this lenny. Its not working.
cap or not, lebron clearly took less money to be on a winning team...
Yeah, he took less money because there is a cap. If the Miami heat were say...Manchester City, they would have just paid those three guys whatever the market demanded. My hypothetical musing about what players could make if there was no cap has nothing to do with the original conversation though len. Nice try.
the cap was only part of the reason he took less money...he took less as well because he knew if he maxed out they wouldn't be able to put a superteam together as they did...while curry's situation is a little different, as i said before he is still well aware that him making less money helps them to build a winning team