Red Mosquito

evenslow wrote:

harmless wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

harmless wrote:

theplatypus wrote:It will probably be a rock album with some guitars in it. Maybe drums.

Rumours are spreading it's got some uke but who needs it?

Don't forget the piano. Lots and lots of piano.

I'm really anticipating not liking the piano. I don't think Brendan O'Brien played the piano with any style or finesse on Backspacer.

I'm trying to think of epic piano-based music a la Born to Run.

I would do anything to love this album... but I won't do that.

harmless wrote:

evenslow wrote:

harmless wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

harmless wrote:

theplatypus wrote:It will probably be a rock album with some guitars in it. Maybe drums.

Rumours are spreading it's got some uke but who needs it?

Don't forget the piano. Lots and lots of piano.

I'm really anticipating not liking the piano. I don't think Brendan O'Brien played the piano with any style or finesse on Backspacer.

I'm trying to think of epic piano-based music a la Born to Run.

I would do anything to love this album... but I won't do that.

Come on! A Pearl Jam Wall of Sound!! Piano compositions featuring glockenspiel. Lots and lots of glockenspiel!!

evenslow wrote:

harmless wrote:

evenslow wrote:

harmless wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

harmless wrote:

theplatypus wrote:It will probably be a rock album with some guitars in it. Maybe drums.

Rumours are spreading it's got some uke but who needs it?

Don't forget the piano. Lots and lots of piano.

I'm really anticipating not liking the piano. I don't think Brendan O'Brien played the piano with any style or finesse on Backspacer.

I'm trying to think of epic piano-based music a la Born to Run.

I would do anything to love this album... but I won't do that.

Come on! A Pearl Jam Wall of Sound!! Piano compositions featuring glockenspiel. Lots and lots of glockenspiel!!

TRIANGLE

I'm hoping they listen to brenden o'brian a lot less than they did on backspacer this time round

I wonder if it will be something similiar to Love Boat Captain?
Another uke song? Or was someone someone just throwing that out there? Might not be bad, or at least interesting, if it's like Loud Uke from Ed's last tour.

It's unlikely they'll listen to Brendan less*, but that would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

*edited for clarification.

im hoping for something little richard-esque

harmless wrote:Unlikely, but it would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Brendan's past behavior with PJ:
Vs.
Vitalogy
No Code
Yield
Backspacer

verb_to_trust wrote:

stonefury wrote:Lukin is so fast it is only a minute long.

Oops. I forget about forgettable songs though. Corduroy and Evenflow live might be able to give it a run for its money.

Or any Pearl Jam song live since Matt Cameron joined the band... Yes, I went there.

evenslow wrote:

harmless wrote:Unlikely, but it would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Brendan's past behavior with PJ:
Vs.
Vitalogy
No Code
Yield
Backspacer

Well there we are. If I'm honest, I think Backspacer, like it or hate it, had a unified sound that I think would've been deliberately off the wall and different.

stonefury wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

stonefury wrote:Lukin is so fast it is only a minute long.

Oops. I forget about forgettable songs though. Corduroy and Evenflow live might be able to give it a run for its money.

Or any Pearl Jam song live since Matt Cameron joined the band... Yes, I went there.

You went there in the same way that Bush's troops went to Iraq -- naively and ill-advisedly.

stonefury wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

stonefury wrote:Lukin is so fast it is only a minute long.

Oops. I forget about forgettable songs though. Corduroy and Evenflow live might be able to give it a run for its money.

Or any Pearl Jam song live since Matt Cameron joined the band... Yes, I went there.

Its not Matt, there are plenty of songs where he starts pretty close to normal speed and then has to speed up when mike or ed start playing

harmless wrote:

stonefury wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

stonefury wrote:Lukin is so fast it is only a minute long.

Oops. I forget about forgettable songs though. Corduroy and Evenflow live might be able to give it a run for its money.

Or any Pearl Jam song live since Matt Cameron joined the band... Yes, I went there.

You went there in the same way that Bush's troops went to Iraq -- naively and ill-advisedly.

I still feel like that went really, really well for us.

harmless wrote:

stonefury wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

stonefury wrote:Lukin is so fast it is only a minute long.

Oops. I forget about forgettable songs though. Corduroy and Evenflow live might be able to give it a run for its money.

Or any Pearl Jam song live since Matt Cameron joined the band... Yes, I went there.

You went there in the same way that Bush's troops went to Iraq -- naively and ill-advisedly.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

harmless wrote:

stonefury wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

stonefury wrote:Lukin is so fast it is only a minute long.

Oops. I forget about forgettable songs though. Corduroy and Evenflow live might be able to give it a run for its money.

Or any Pearl Jam song live since Matt Cameron joined the band... Yes, I went there.

You went there in the same way that Bush's troops went to Iraq -- naively and ill-advisedly.

I actually misread the point he was making, because I am a lazy reader. Still, it was a good post, just ignore the context (same as I did). Incidentally I agree that Matt has a problem with speeding songs up, but yeah, it's just as often Ed. He's one of those guitarists with very little regard for tempo.

harmless wrote:Unlikely, but it would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

I doubt that. Mostly because whatever was done on Backspacer wasn't done particularly well. Especially the songs that feature busier arrangements. They ruined Speed of sound by completely changing the mood of the demo and it's not like they can't build a decent arrangement layered or not. It seems that for some reason they don't seem to care enough.

B wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:At least update the TSIS main page with a new screen shot of the clock every morning.

I was annoyed that they didn't make it widget that I could embed. I'll have a look later and see if I can create one. I bet a countdown widget is out there somewhere.

OK. How's that? http://www.theskyiscrape.com/

Damn thing is 3 seconds off, but there doesn't seem to be anything I can do about that.

harmless wrote:

evenslow wrote:

harmless wrote:Unlikely, but it would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Brendan's past behavior with PJ:
Vs.
Vitalogy
No Code
Yield
Backspacer

Well there we are. If I'm honest, I think Backspacer, like it or hate it, had a unified sound that I think would've been deliberately off the wall and different.

You could say that for all of their albums regardless of who produced them. Even sonically.

harmless wrote:It's unlikely they'll listen to Brendan less*, but that would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

*edited for clarification.

Then that's awesome. But however they were working with him on vs-yeild produced results better than backspacer. I just remembered reading that eddie wanted just breathe to be a little sparse song and brenden said 'NO we are going to make the most beautiful song EVAH' and added strings and whatever . I think i would have prefered the former but i don't think he killed the song or anything, hell it's probably their most successful song this decade so he was probably right and i should shutup.

I get what you're saying though, maybe if the band came to him with binaural first he'd have got them to do thier Spaciest song EVAH.

Mine wrote:

harmless wrote:Unlikely, but it would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

I doubt that. Mostly because whatever was done on Backspacer wasn't done particularly well. Especially the songs that feature busier arrangements. They ruined Speed of sound by completely changing the mood of the demo and it's not like they can't build a decent arrangement layered or not. It seems that for some reason they don't seem to care enough.

I forgot about the abomination that is speed of sound. Yeah that song they did kill. Was that brenden or did eddie vomit cheese and lasers all over it himself?

stip wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

Coach wrote:No uke. No silly punk. Please. Let Stone and Jeff write the tunes. Not gonna happen....I know, but we can dream.

I wouldn't mind a more fleshed out version of Without You, Sleeping By Myself, or Light Today but not on an album. Could be a cool b-side or something.

play the uke songs can't keep and then riot act's can't keep. If you can improve a song that much with a full band version I'm on board.

Agreed that there is improvement, but I don't really enjoy either version of Can't Keep.