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tragabigzanda wrote:Imagine if Trump lost 2020 because everyone in rural hospital areas got coronavirus

96583UP wrote:trump is an asshole

but the truth appears to be that most cases of this virus are mild

people might not even know this is what they have because it's symptoms are the same as other colds

so the media is exaggerating the negative effects

and it is causing exaggerated economic effects

Italy is basically guaranteed a recession now

Does the US want one over a thing that kills people less frequently than car accidents?

A professor of public health from DCU was on the telly last night and he made a good job of explaining the risk versus seasonal flu.

1) It is more infectious than flu. (Something called R value, which is a measure of transmissiblity in the population. Measles, by far the worst airborne disease in the World has a value of 20, seasonal flu 1.3, Covid-19 appears to be >2.

2) its incubation period is much longer than flu, 10-14 days versus 2-5 days. This means you can go around infecting way more people before you know you're a carrier.

3) it seems the virus can exist longer in the open environment outside the body than Flu, making it a greater public health risk.

4) Humans have antibodies to influenza both acquired and inherited for centuries. We have no such tolerance for Covid-19, its brand spanking new and as such if are exposed you basically will get ill. As we know, this will remain mostly mild, but the conversion rate to complications like pneumonia in vulnerable groups becomes higher and more acute for that reason.

And so, for our fellow posters who bemoan scaremongering and overreaction, it boils down to this. Covid-19 can burn its way through a population in such a way as to cripple systems and services, health, policing, fire and rescue, power generation, logistics, schooling and childcare, transport etc. At the same time the illness is confining you to bed for a couple of days, it might be denying your elderly mother her chemo or giving pneumonia to your small child that hasn't outgrown his bronchitis, all because normal services are just not there.

dimejinky99 wrote:

96583UP wrote:trump is an asshole

but the truth appears to be that most cases of this virus are mild

people might not even know this is what they have because it's symptoms are the same as other colds

so the media is exaggerating the negative effects

and it is causing exaggerated economic effects

Italy is basically guaranteed a recession now

Does the US want one over a thing that kills people less frequently than car accidents?

That’s not at all the point. Have enough people of all ages become infected and the 14- 2x day incubation period where they don’t know they’re sick and infecting others, that eventually and quickly brings about a systematic shutdown both in health services and up to economy.

HardTI wrote:Just for fun, here's an internal email a professor at Harvard Medical said I can share.
It just shows Boston Childrens Hosptials internal communication and how they were responding and when.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gglbfb5k ... 38buazqsny

verb_to_trust wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Imagine if Trump lost 2020 because everyone in rural hospital areas got coronavirus

Rural areas are almost completely isolated from this. Corona is going after the sanctuary cities. MAGA

McParadigm wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Imagine if Trump lost 2020 because everyone in rural hospital areas got coronavirus

Rural areas are almost completely isolated from this. Corona is going after the sanctuary cities. MAGA

Nah. Most rural areas are built into an endlessly mobile agriculture supply chain. They are also places where more or less everybody has direct or indirect contact with everybody else, and many of your necessities, favorite places, or friends might be in another town 10 miles away. There’s constant traffic between towns. “We live in Canova, but the grocery store and old folks home where mom is are in Howard, and the closest church for our denomination is in Madison. I’m not going to stop going to church at a time when there are locust plagues and epidemics!” Madison is a college town, as well, so it’s a traffic hub. I can pick the virus up there and spend 10 days unknowingly spreading it around Canova AND Howard. The end.

Some rural pockets managed to avoid the Spanish flu, but not many, and the rural places that did get it had a much higher mortality rate than played out in cities.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Bammer, this better not fuck with our meetup in San Diego

verb_to_trust wrote:I hope it spreads to DC