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Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Sun April 16, 2023 11:23 pm
by simple schoolboy

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Sun April 23, 2023 5:14 am
by simple schoolboy
Excited to hear how this is better than a Teach For America approach where basically any sufficiently motivated college graduate is expected to create better outcomes than whatever this is.

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Sun April 23, 2023 10:44 am
by elliseamos
I have to agree with him:

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Sun April 23, 2023 10:46 am
by elliseamos
And although, yes, TFA gets more people in the door teaching students, it exacerbates the problem that teachers aren't paid enough. Which we've covered here previously.

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Sun April 23, 2023 7:00 pm
by Bi_3
elliseamos wrote:And although, yes, TFA gets more people in the door teaching students, it exacerbates the problem that teachers aren't paid enough. Which we've covered here previously.

Thoughts?

https://www.economist.com/united-states ... o-teachers

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Mon April 24, 2023 12:14 am
by elliseamos
Without the ability to read more than the first paragraph, I think they've realized that paying teachers is a good idea. It doesn't matter if it's Rs or Ds in charge of a state.

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Wed April 26, 2023 4:20 pm
by Bi_3
Surprised it took this long:

Schools Are Ditching Homework, Deadlines in Favor of ‘Equitable Grading’:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/schools-ar ... g-dcef7c3e

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Wed April 26, 2023 4:51 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Wed April 26, 2023 11:24 pm
by elliseamos
It's a tricky one. Not sure what the article says...

Homework often inflates grades for some so the actual skills and knowledge are misrepresented.

But at the same time, it can deflate grades for some despite the student having demonstrated skills and knowledge on other assignments.

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Sun April 30, 2023 8:57 pm
by simple schoolboy
Are we going past affinity groups in clubs to classes as affinity groups?

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Sun April 30, 2023 11:33 pm
by elliseamos
Following the thread it looks like this is about "coding" who's in the class for data analysis purposes.

Still stupid since you can get the data points elsewhere, but yeah, context.

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 12:05 am
by simple schoolboy
elliseamos wrote:Following the thread it looks like this is about "coding" who's in the class for data analysis purposes.

Still stupid since you can get the data points elsewhere, but yeah, context.
The only thing that makes sense would be to reserve x number of seats for black/ Hispanic kids. I don't recall classes at my highschool being significantly impacted, and I rather doubt they are running out of seats in their Calc AB class, but who knows.

Whatever they are doing is super ham handed.

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 12:15 am
by elliseamos
Yes, it's a stupid way of doing whatever it is that they're doing.

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 12:38 am
by Bi_3
simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Following the thread it looks like this is about "coding" who's in the class for data analysis purposes.

Still stupid since you can get the data points elsewhere, but yeah, context.
The only thing that makes sense would be to reserve x number of seats for black/ Hispanic kids. I don't recall classes at my highschool being significantly impacted, and I rather doubt they are running out of seats in their Calc AB class, but who knows.

Whatever they are doing is super ham handed.
Was it done for other classes as well?

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 12:51 am
by simple schoolboy
Bi_3 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Following the thread it looks like this is about "coding" who's in the class for data analysis purposes.

Still stupid since you can get the data points elsewhere, but yeah, context.
The only thing that makes sense would be to reserve x number of seats for black/ Hispanic kids. I don't recall classes at my highschool being significantly impacted, and I rather doubt they are running out of seats in their Calc AB class, but who knows.

Whatever they are doing is super ham handed.
Was it done for other classes as well?

Algebra 2, but only for "Latinx", which makes it somewhat more confusing.

https://www.eths.k12.il.us/Page/3025

Edit: Precal as well, Black and Latinx course codes

Is someone running a "priming" study for kids IDing as certain ethnicities at registration? Can't imagine that would get past the IRB.

Edit2: is this why public education costs so much? Maybe this is a large school district but that's a huge number of math classes. Could some of these be better served by being taught at the local community college?

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 7:56 pm
by Bi_3
simple schoolboy wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Following the thread it looks like this is about "coding" who's in the class for data analysis purposes.

Still stupid since you can get the data points elsewhere, but yeah, context.
The only thing that makes sense would be to reserve x number of seats for black/ Hispanic kids. I don't recall classes at my highschool being significantly impacted, and I rather doubt they are running out of seats in their Calc AB class, but who knows.

Whatever they are doing is super ham handed.
Was it done for other classes as well?

Algebra 2, but only for "Latinx", which makes it somewhat more confusing.

https://www.eths.k12.il.us/Page/3025

Edit: Precal as well, Black and Latinx course codes

Is someone running a "priming" study for kids IDing as certain ethnicities at registration? Can't imagine that would get past the IRB.

Edit2: is this why public education costs so much? Maybe this is a large school district but that's a huge number of math classes. Could some of these be better served by being taught at the local community college?

Definitely intended to be segregated courses: https://thespectator.com/topic/illinois ... -township/

“While open to all students, this optional section of the course is intended to support students who identify as Latinx,”

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 7:58 pm
by elliseamos
Stupid.

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 8:41 pm
by simple schoolboy
elliseamos wrote:Stupid.
Isn't the theory that placing low SES kids with high SES kids, the former benefit to some extent? If your racially segregated groups are disproportionately low SES isn't that likely to their detriment?

I guess that goes out the window when the psychic burden of having to interact with whiteness causes the students to undertake excessive emotional labor.

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 4:26 pm
by Bi_3
Huh.

Re: General Education Topik

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 12:06 am
by elliseamos
Stupid.