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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed November 04, 2015 4:44 pm
by 4/5
Here is a pretty great explanation about why moderate Republicans have a huge advantage over conservative ones in the primaries.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed November 04, 2015 6:41 pm
by The Argonaut
which is a good reason to switch to a national popular vote for the general election, at least. those voters in blue states who decide the Republican nominee (or voters in red states who influence the Democratic nominee) will be a part of the process after the primary, too.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 1:02 am
by B
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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 2:20 am
by Green Habit
Someone could make a killing writing a book called "Shit Donald Trump Says". Only problem is that he'd sue your ass off even if you have the First Amendment on your side.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 4:05 pm
by Simple Torture
Never stop jammin', Ben Carson:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... oahs-tombs
Egypt’s pyramids were built by the biblical Joseph to store grain and were not, as archaeologists believe, tombs for pharaohs, Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson has said.

The retired neurosurgeon, who is seeking his party’s nomination for the White House, made these remarks in a 1998 address at Andrews University, a Michigan school associated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, to which he belongs, in a video posted on Buzzfeed on Wednesday.

The church is a conservative evangelical Christian one.


In this 1998 speech, Ben Carson says the pyramids in Egypt were built to store grain
“My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,” Carson – who last week overtook Republican rival Donald Trump for the first time in a national poll – told graduates in his address.


“Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it.

“And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.”

Asked on Wednesday if he still held these views, Carson told CBS News: “It’s still my belief, yes.”

Speaking to MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Thursday, rival Republican Trump said: “He’s informed me about the pyramids. I think I’ll have to put that in my repertoire about Ben. That was a strange deal.”

In his 1998 address, Carson said: “And when you look at the way that the pyramids are made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they’d have to be that way for various reasons.

“And various of scientists have said, ‘Well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that’s how, you know, it doesn’t require an alien being when God is with you’.”


In the old testament book of Genesis, Joseph, one of the 12 sons of Jacob, was said to have “stored up grain in great abundance like the sand of the sea, until he stopped measuring it, for it was beyond measure”.

After seven years of plenty, the story in Genesis says, Egypt suffered seven years of famine, during which Joseph was able to feed the people with the grain he had stored.

Carson has spoken often about his faith, saying recently of his critics: “They say, ‘Carson, you know, how can you be a surgeon, a neurosurgeon, and believe that God created the Earth, and not believe in evolution, which is the basis of all knowledge and all science?’ …

“But I do believe God created us, and I did just fine … And in fact, the more you know about God, and the deeper your relationship with God, I think the more intricate becomes your knowledge of the way things work, including the human body.”

Agence France-Presse contributed to this report.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 4:29 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Seventh-day Adventists are fucking wackjobs.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 4:37 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Seventh-day Adventists are fucking wackjobs.
Is that what Carson is? They go to church on Saturdays. Eff that.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 5:17 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Ben Carson is such an enigma to me; I can't get a handle on him. Occasionally, between all the crazy bullshit that comes out of his mouth, he'll say things I think are on point (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -religion/), even insightful and refreshing(http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2 ... /32055507/). Overall, he's definitely a wackjob, but he is an interesting wackjob that clearly has a unique intelligence in certain areas; not the generic conservative wackjob the other GOP jackoffs are. He seems like someone I could engage in a compelling conversation with, even if I think like 80% of what he believes is nuts.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 5:40 pm
by McParadigm
Jesus Christ.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 6:30 pm
by Strat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Ben Carson is such an enigma to me; I can't get a handle on him. Occasionally, between all the crazy bullshit that comes out of his mouth, he'll say things I think are on point (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -religion/), even insightful and refreshing(http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2 ... /32055507/). Overall, he's definitely a wackjob, but he is an interesting wackjob that clearly has a unique intelligence in certain areas; not the generic conservative wackjob the other GOP jackoffs are. He seems like someone I could engage in a compelling conversation with, even if I think like 80% of what he believes is nuts.
I dont know. These are some vague comments that I dont totally agree with at all. "American values". What does that mean?
“I said I would support anyone, regardless of their background, if in fact they embrace American values and our Constitution and are willing to place that above their beliefs,” Mr. Carson told reporters in Ohio.
And this? I sure dont agree with:
but there’s no question that our Constitution and our traditions have a Judeo-Christian bas

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 6:32 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Yeah, I certainly have reservations, but overall I agree with what he's saying. A lot of it is unexpected coming from a conservative.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 6:40 pm
by Strat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Yeah, I certainly have reservations, but overall I agree with what he's saying. A lot of it is unexpected coming from a conservative.
Sounds like this has more to do with the bar being set real low these days for conservatives. lol

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 7:12 pm
by The Argonaut
That one seems more like a politician trying to come up with a way to walk back a comment he caught a lot of shit for, without actually saying anything actually different.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 11:09 pm
by Strat
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/ben-cars ... 20407.html

Lol. Didnt he blame rap culture for the demise of black america?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 11:21 pm
by LoathedVermin72
That's a pretty bold level of pandering. He's barely even trying to hide it. Jeez.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 11:22 pm
by BurtReynolds
Biggie didn't die for this.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 06, 2015 2:13 pm
by McParadigm
The Trump ad is the one that actually made me laugh tho. "He'll make our military so strong, no country will ever mess with us."

I wonder what other ideas that first grade class had for things he should say.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 06, 2015 2:27 pm
by Simple Torture
McParadigm wrote:The Trump as is the one that actually made me laugh tho.
Did McP just have a stroke?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 06, 2015 3:35 pm
by McParadigm
Simple Torture wrote:
McParadigm wrote:The Trump as is the one that actually made me laugh tho.
Did McP just have a stroke?
Typing on my phone and not noticing the autocorrects.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 06, 2015 5:04 pm
by 4/5
ref
LoathedVermin72 wrote: even insightful and refreshing(http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2 ... /32055507/).
What exactly was insightful? I agree that #blacklivesmatter is mostly unfocused on real issues, that's fine. But then it's just a typical Republican list of causes: black people themselves, teachers' unions, social welfare programs, Democrats, and hip-hop culture. Is it "refreshing" because a black person said it?

His best point was regarding focusing on education as a systemic issue as opposed to the relatively isolated (comparatively) problem of police brutality. I just didn't read anything substantive about how to address that issue, though.