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Re: Russia
Posted: Mon February 28, 2022 10:20 pm
by spike
dimejinky99 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:They have something called dead hand apparently. Even if Moscow is destroyed or cut off all their other missles including in subs will launch automatically.
I’m not talking about if Russia is attacked though. I’m saying if Putin just think all hope is lost in Ukraine and his people turn against him, what if he decides to just say “fuck it” and end the world?
I think the inner circle will have removed him before that. I don’t see moscovites rising against him. The protests are growing a little bit but not much. But if he were to be in the situation where he throws a shit fit and it all isn’t working and wants to go nuclear That’s where the palace coup happens.
We’re basically all depending on one of his generals or inner circle to step up now.
That’s what all the coverage on him I’ve been listening to and reading is saying. We have to hope people within the circle are plotting or at least agreeing a red line is. They have to act.
There’s a great piece on it I’ll try find it for you.
I think he’s asking if there are two keys to launch, or multiple codes. One man can’t launch nuclear warheads.
Seems the answer is no one knows, which is great.
Re: Russia
Posted: Mon February 28, 2022 11:20 pm
by dimejinky99
spike wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:They have something called dead hand apparently. Even if Moscow is destroyed or cut off all their other missles including in subs will launch automatically.
I’m not talking about if Russia is attacked though. I’m saying if Putin just think all hope is lost in Ukraine and his people turn against him, what if he decides to just say “fuck it” and end the world?
I think the inner circle will have removed him before that. I don’t see moscovites rising against him. The protests are growing a little bit but not much. But if he were to be in the situation where he throws a shit fit and it all isn’t working and wants to go nuclear That’s where the palace coup happens.
We’re basically all depending on one of his generals or inner circle to step up now.
That’s what all the coverage on him I’ve been listening to and reading is saying. We have to hope people within the circle are plotting or at least agreeing a red line is. They have to act.
There’s a great piece on it I’ll try find it for you.
I think he’s asking if there are two keys to launch, or multiple codes. One man can’t launch nuclear warheads.
Seems the answer is no one knows, which is great.
Oh.
It’s literally a box with a red amber and green button on his desk.
He can push it any time in sequence. Seriously.
Look at the pics with the long table. It’s on his left.
Re: Russia
Posted: Mon February 28, 2022 11:21 pm
by dimejinky99
Re: Russia
Posted: Mon February 28, 2022 11:47 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Russia
Posted: Mon February 28, 2022 11:52 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 1:36 am
by McParadigm
Apologies if this has been shared, but I found it really…something.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 ... alone.html
But how did so many miss that Putin and his rule had changed? Part of the answer is that Putin has been in power so long that much analysis simply got frozen in the past. Impressions about a Russia dominated by “oligarchs” froze into legend and did not keep up with their effective liquidation as a class. (It didn’t help that Westerns know plenty of Russian billionaires from the Davos circuit, but don’t know the security officials who’ve increasingly embraced the sort of religious nationalism that seems to have gripped Putin.)
The pandemic also made it difficult for outsiders to notice Putin’s apparent descent into paranoid isolation; he has apparently cloistered himself for the past few years through ultra-strict personal lockdowns and social distancing measures that may have affected his judgment. The absurdly long tables Putin has sat at for meetings have become a symbol of his remoteness (and a pretty good meme). French President Emmanuel Macron reportedly found him a completely “different person” in early February from the man he last met in 2019.
And finally, Western Russia analysis failed because it depends on Russian analysis of its own society, and that failed even more catastrophically. There, an expert class inured by decades of propaganda underestimated the effect that the systematic dismantling of Russian journalism has had on its ability to know what goes on inside the Kremlin. This, mixed with denial: It was simply too terrifying to contemplate the fact Russians were living under dictatorship where all the guardrails had fallen off. Though Americans may think of Russia as a society used to tyrants, this is subtly missing the point. The post-Stalin Soviet Union was a collectively ruled, civilian-led authoritarian regime, not one-man rule. Stalin died when Putin was less than 5 months old, meaning the ability to spot the warning signs of personalist dictatorship are almost as distant to Russians as Hitler is to the Germans.
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 1:48 am
by McParadigm
Where is Steven Seagal when you need him?
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 1:54 am
by dimejinky99
McParadigm wrote:Where is Steven Seagal when you need him?
Funny you mention it.
Putin has been kicked out of and removed as the head of the international judo association or whatever the fuck it is.
Segal is probably taking over.
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 2:09 am
by Rangi Guy
dimejinky99 wrote:McParadigm wrote:Where is Steven Seagal when you need him?
Funny you mention it.
Putin has been kicked out of and removed as the head of the international judo association or whatever the fuck it is.
Segal is probably taking over.
Also heard he's had his black belt in taekwondo revoked
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 2:11 am
by 96583UP
E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:They have something called dead hand apparently. Even if Moscow is destroyed or cut off all their other missles including in subs will launch automatically.
I’m not talking about if Russia is attacked though. I’m saying if Putin just think all hope is lost in Ukraine and his people turn against him, what if he decides to just say “fuck it” and end the world?
he wouldn't do that because that would bring shame on the history of Russia.
the source of his strength is his view as an epic Tsar re-assembling the 10th century russian holyland. restoring pride to russia and it's place as a great power in human history
if he did that, he would go down as an epic loser, who failed in his attempt to re-assemble the holyland, and responded by having his entire country destroyed
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 2:15 am
by 96583UP
tragabigzanda wrote:McParadigm wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:“If only there were some sort of decentralized currency that protects the anonymity of all parties involved in an international transaction.” -Putin
“Hackers use mining malware on Fartcoin servers, accidentally steal Russia.”
Russia Could Use Cryptocurrency to Blunt the Force of U.S. Sanctions
Russian companies have many cryptocurrency tools at their disposal to evade sanctions, including a so-called digital ruble and ransomware.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/busi ... rency.html
cryptocurrency markets are not large enough for a government as big as russia to use them with any significance
the market would immediately moon, the wallets are traceable, and for the crypto assets to transform back into the fiat world would require an exchange, and governments can apply pressure to shut down exchange wallets
that said - if private citizens of russia are looking for a way to protect their savings from evaporating while the ruble plunges, they should open a crypto account asap and move their money into USDT/USDC (NFA!)
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 2:39 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 2:47 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 3:25 am
by simple schoolboy
dimejinky99 wrote:McParadigm wrote:Where is Steven Seagal when you need him?
Funny you mention it.
Putin has been kicked out of and removed as the head of the international judo association or whatever the fuck it is.
Segal is probably taking over.
Isn't Segal famously an Aikido practitioner?
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 5:52 am
by spike
dimejinky99 wrote:spike wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:They have something called dead hand apparently. Even if Moscow is destroyed or cut off all their other missles including in subs will launch automatically.
I’m not talking about if Russia is attacked though. I’m saying if Putin just think all hope is lost in Ukraine and his people turn against him, what if he decides to just say “fuck it” and end the world?
I think the inner circle will have removed him before that. I don’t see moscovites rising against him. The protests are growing a little bit but not much. But if he were to be in the situation where he throws a shit fit and it all isn’t working and wants to go nuclear That’s where the palace coup happens.
We’re basically all depending on one of his generals or inner circle to step up now.
That’s what all the coverage on him I’ve been listening to and reading is saying. We have to hope people within the circle are plotting or at least agreeing a red line is. They have to act.
There’s a great piece on it I’ll try find it for you.
I think he’s asking if there are two keys to launch, or multiple codes. One man can’t launch nuclear warheads.
Seems the answer is no one knows, which is great.
Oh.
It’s literally a box with a red amber and green button on his desk.
He can push it any time in sequence. Seriously.
Look at the pics with the long table. It’s on his left.
Are you sure that’s not a Diet Coke button?
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 6:35 am
by spike
So much for a cold war…
MOSCOW, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Russia's foreign ministry said on Monday that those supplying lethal weapons to Ukraine will bear responsibility should they be used during Russia's military campaign there.
The ministry added that the steps the European Union has taken against Russia will not be left without a harsh response.
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 8:56 am
by dimejinky99
Ruddo. The nuke buttons to his left. On the table.
Look at the two slots either sides of the buttons.
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 9:11 am
by dimejinky99
tragabigzanda wrote:I’ll rephrase: explain to me how wallets are traceable, because I don’t see how that plays out in the real world
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 9:14 am
by spike
dimejinky99 wrote:Ruddo. The nuke buttons to his left. On the table.
Look at the two slots either sides of the buttons.
Two key slots, so he’d presumably only have one. Got it.
Re: Russia
Posted: Tue March 01, 2022 9:57 am
by dimejinky99
This is an incredible read. Terrifying. We’re all in very very deep shit. Not just Ukraine.
If you read anything today make it this.