Red Mosquito

She's right. In my 36 years I have never seen a major Hollywood tentpole film like this that features an all female ensemble cast that is composed of real women who are not overtly sexualized, obsessed with men, crying over men, reliant on relationships with men, who are funny and powerful and affect the plot in positive ways. These are four friends who don't fall into any of the common traps/tropes of the hollywood female lead. It is important. And this movie deserves to be seen and make money.

But even if it wasn't imporant on all those points, which it clearly is, it's also just a good movie. It's fun and funny and a blast to watch, even in spite of it's flaws. It's not a perfect movie but it is funny and charming and there are some great visuals that surprised me, even as someone who expected to enjoy the movie.

Yeah, i read that. Like i said i havent seen the movie yet but...still..action movies tend to sexualize both men and women.
So..im still not sure about why this is so different...there is a lot of movies with women leads that arent sexualized..why is this different? Because she tell so?

VinylGuy wrote:Yeah, i read that. Like i said i havent seen the movie yet but...still..action movies tend to sexualize both men and women.
So..im still not sure about why this is so different...there is a lot of movies with women leads that arent sexualized..why is this different? Because she tell so?

I obviously can't explain this to you.

durdencommatyler wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Yeah, i read that. Like i said i havent seen the movie yet but...still..action movies tend to sexualize both men and women.
So..im still not sure about why this is so different...there is a lot of movies with women leads that arent sexualized..why is this different? Because she tell so?

I obviously can't explain this to you.

I really would like an explanation. Still, maybe i just need to see the movie though.
I feel the movie gained a lot from the stupid backlash of ¨ i hate it because they are women¨ and now its being introduced as a ¨important gender moment¨ were it might not be that at all.

Like i said, i might have a better response when i see this.

From your responses here, I'm guessing you won't.

But you should still see the movie.

Ouch

Are these women more kick-ass then say Ripley?

Ripley is such a great character.

Thats a really good example of what i was saying.

But it's not a really good example of what I was saying.

why not?

In simplist terms, because although she is a great character, strong and everthing else, the film she's in does unnecessarily sexualize her as well as project themes of male dominance on her. That isn't a part of Ghostbusters at all. In addition, Ripley is on her own whereas we're seeing a team of women in Ghostbusters who don't fall victim to the typical tropes/traps that men usually put women in on film.

Let's talk about the visuals.

2016 Slimer carjacking.

Ghostvomit everywhere.

A slew of ghostbusting weapons that will make a lot of kids' xmas and birthday gift lists.

Kate McKinnon

Go see Ghostbusters. Love it, hate it, I don't care. Go see Ghostbusters. It matters

Drinking that marketing koolaid.

Women can star in regurgitated, soulless, cash grab shit, too! Yay. Let's not plant the gender equality flag here, fellas. This movie is made to fill Sony executive's wallets, nothing more.

No, it doesn't matter.

Dismissal of women and their worth is nothing new. Maybe someday.

We can do better.

Burt you gotta see the death metal concert ghost battle.

It's a must see.

The worst part of this movie was definitely Bill Murray's weird, unnecessary role.

BurtReynolds wrote:We can do better.

And we must. And I believe we will. But everyone around here thinks I'm a manic cynic. So, take that with a grain of salt.