Will he be a Hall of Famer?

Chris_H_2 · Post by **Chris_H_2** » Wed January 04, 2017 2:57 am

Air Coryell FTW

MattA75 · Post by **MattA75** » Thu January 05, 2017 12:49 am

Green Habit wrote:
Morten Andersen
Tony Boselli
Isaac Bruce
Don Coryell
Terrell Davis
Brian Dawkins
Alan Faneca
Joe Jacoby
Ty Law
John Lynch
Kevin Mawae
Terrell Owens
Jason Taylor
LaDainian Tomlinson
Kurt Warner
I'll take TD, LDT, Warner, Bruce and Taylor. Who you got?

Tomlinson, Taylor, Owens, Law

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Thu January 12, 2017 5:05 am

What about Chase Utley?

philpritchard · Post by **philpritchard** » Thu January 12, 2017 3:12 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:What about Chase Utley?

To me, Utley's an easy yes. He's right up there with Biggio, Alomar, and Sandberg, although with less longevity and a much better peak.

Unfortunately, he doesn't have all the traditional numbers and milestones that voters are normally looking for. So I'm guessing he falls somewhere in the Jeff Kent borderline area.

Chris_H_2 · Post by **Chris_H_2** » Thu January 12, 2017 3:29 pm

I can't believe that Edgar Martinez (who should make it BTW) is going to make it in before Alan Trammell.

philpritchard · Post by **philpritchard** » Thu January 12, 2017 3:40 pm

A bunch of people voting for Trevor Hoffman while leaving Edgar off because "he's just a DH" is pretty hilarious.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Thu January 12, 2017 4:41 pm

philpritchard wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:What about Chase Utley?
To me, Utley's an easy yes. He's right up there with Biggio, Alomar, and Sandberg, although with less longevity and a much better peak.

Unfortunately, he doesn't have all the traditional numbers and milestones that voters are normally looking for. So I'm guessing he falls somewhere in the Jeff Kent borderline area.

That's how I feel. I mean, just look at JAWS for second basemen. But for me Utley is an easy yes while Kent is a big maybe.

philpritchard · Post by **philpritchard** » Thu January 12, 2017 5:26 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:What about Chase Utley?
To me, Utley's an easy yes. He's right up there with Biggio, Alomar, and Sandberg, although with less longevity and a much better peak.

Unfortunately, he doesn't have all the traditional numbers and milestones that voters are normally looking for. So I'm guessing he falls somewhere in the Jeff Kent borderline area.
That's how I feel. I mean, just look at JAWS for second basemen. But for me Utley is an easy yes while Kent is a big maybe.

I've always viewed Kent as a "probably", but that's without doing a whole lot of research. Either way, Utley is a clear level above him.

@SkitchP · Post by **@SkitchP** » Thu January 12, 2017 5:39 pm

Meanwhile Lou Whitaker didnt even hit the 5%.

Fuck the hall of fame.

MattA75 · Post by **MattA75** » Fri January 13, 2017 5:29 pm

philpritchard wrote:A bunch of people voting for Trevor Hoffman while leaving Edgar off because "he's just a DH" is pretty hilarious.

What's worse is there are people giving votes to fucking Jorge Posada while leaving Edgar Martinez off...fucking embarrassing

philpritchard · Post by **philpritchard** » Fri January 13, 2017 6:14 pm

MattA75 wrote:
philpritchard wrote:A bunch of people voting for Trevor Hoffman while leaving Edgar off because "he's just a DH" is pretty hilarious.
What's worse is there are people giving votes to fucking Jorge Posada while leaving Edgar Martinez off...fucking embarrassing

Check out Jon Heyman's bullshit: http://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/heymans ... ll-ballot/

Bonds and Clemens get in because, while we know for sure the used steroids, they were awesome before they started. As if we know the precise date when they started using.

Meanwhile, Bagwell doesn't get his vote because there are rumours that he may have used at some point, and, assuming he did, he wouldn't have been good enough to make the Hall of Fame without them.

What a disingenuous load of shit.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Fri January 13, 2017 6:19 pm

philpritchard wrote:
MattA75 wrote:
philpritchard wrote:A bunch of people voting for Trevor Hoffman while leaving Edgar off because "he's just a DH" is pretty hilarious.
What's worse is there are people giving votes to fucking Jorge Posada while leaving Edgar Martinez off...fucking embarrassing
Check out Jon Heyman's bullshit: http://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/heymans ... ll-ballot/

Bonds and Clemens get in because, while we know for sure the used steroids, they were awesome before they started. As if we know the precise date when they started using.

Meanwhile, Bagwell doesn't get his vote because there are rumours that he may have used at some point, and, assuming he did, he wouldn't have been good enough to make the Hall of Fame without them.

What a disingenuous load of shit.

He voted for Bonds but left Clemens off.
He voted for Lee Smith, Jorge Posada, Fred McGriff, and Trevor Hoffman while leaving off Roger Clemens, Curt Schilling, and Jeff Bagwell.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Fri January 13, 2017 6:19 pm

heyman is pretty dumb

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Fri January 13, 2017 6:21 pm

Wagner was better than both Smith and Hoffman.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Fri January 13, 2017 6:23 pm

I say that though not knowing shit about Lee Smith.

philpritchard · Post by **philpritchard** » Fri January 13, 2017 6:49 pm

His Guerrero vs. Walker comparison is hilarious, too.

"Walker has a MUCH higher WAR than Guerrero, but I don't believe that because Lou Whitaker isn't better than Derek Jeter. Anyway, here's a random assortment of Guerrero stats. It doesn't matter what Walker's stats were in those categories because he played a bunch of years in Colorado."

numbers · Post by **numbers** » Fri January 13, 2017 6:59 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:Wagner was better than both Smith and Hoffman.

I feel like Wagner is criminally underrated, but that's just me I guess.

philpritchard · Post by **philpritchard** » Fri January 13, 2017 7:04 pm

Smith only really gets the kind of support he does because he held the save record for a while.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Fri January 13, 2017 7:04 pm

saves are stupid

philpritchard · Post by **philpritchard** » Fri January 13, 2017 7:06 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:saves are stupid

Saves are just kind of a fun side note. They're not a way to evaluate players.

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